Cops on Uxbridge Rd

ChrisKH · June 2007

I reserve the right to wear a hi-viz vest and plastic hat (which I do) and look a tosser.

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Hackbike 6 · June 2007

Same here Chris.

I don't really care what people think of my Hi-viz stuff.It's there to do an important job.

The old chestnut at work is,is that the new uniform?

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Guy Young · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Domtyler:

You guys (Hackbike, DontDare etc.) probably think the same when you hear how over-represented young black men are in the police stats, i.e. if they didn't go round stabbing each other and committing petty and violent street crime then they would not be getting themselves arrested. While being ultimately true, it hides the underlying institutionalised prejudice that is revealed by the stats.
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I'm afraid your analogy doesn't stack up. If young black men are stopped by the police just because the police feel they are statistically more likely to be involved in 'petty and violent street crime they have a right to feel aggrieved. If cyclists are stopped just because the police feel they are more likely to commit offences such as jumping red lights, then they have a right to feel aggrieved. But that would mean the simple minded dinosaurs would be the ones being persecuted, wouldn't it? Not the ones that actually jump the red lights.

If someone is caught in the act of breaking the law, whether it's assault, petty crime or a traffic offence on a bike and get done for it, they can hardly claim to be persecuted. It's nonsense.

dondare · June 2007

What's so bad about being a dinosaur?

"da sapienti et addetur ei sapientia doce iustum et festinabit accipere."

firsthippy · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dondare

What's so bad about being a dinosaur?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Extinction?

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dondare · June 2007

Dinosaus dominated the earth for 60 million years. The human race has been around for about 1 million, do you think that we'll last another 59?

"da sapienti et addetur ei sapientia doce iustum et festinabit accipere."

firsthippy · June 2007

No. We are 100,000 years overdue for a global extinction event.

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domtyler · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dondare
Dinosaus dominated the earth for 60 million years. The human race has been around for about 1 million, do you think that we'll last another 59?

"da sapienti et addetur ei sapientia doce iustum et festinabit accipere."
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You have made another couple of errors in this post, it should be:

We Dinosaurs dominated the earth for 60 million years. The human race has been around for about 1 million, do you think that you'll last another 59?

Your welcome.[;)]

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Hackbike 6 · June 2007

I actually had a row with a copper on the 1997 London-Cambridge bike ride.

He said I was going to RLJ just because of the fact that I was going up to a red light pretty fast.

I was going to stop but he didn't believe me on the basis that other cyclists had done it on that ride.[v]

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Jaded · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domtyler

Your welcome.[;)]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Your welcome what?

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Hackbike 6 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domtyler

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Hackbike 6

I actually had a row with a copper on the 1997 London-Cambridge bike ride.

He said I was going to RLJ just because of the fact that I was going up to a red light pretty fast.

I was going to stop but he didn't believe me on the basis that other cyclists had done it on that ride.[v]

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I wouldn't have believed you either, I have seen your atrocious cycling skills and they made my blood run cold. how many pedestrians have you mown down now btw?

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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dondare · June 2007

A couple of weeks ago I was stopped by a cop at the lights.

"Didn't you see the signal?" he asked.

"Yes, it's green."

It turns out that he was signalling me to stop, at least he reckoned he was. But, he didn't look much like a cop (no helmet or cap, no yellow POLICE waistcoat) and he wasn't giving anything like a recognizable signal either; unless it was one instructing a dog to sit. I didn't tell him this, just stopped and waited until he gave another signal which could have meant "Here boy" to his imaginary dog, but everyone took to mean that we could go again.

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hevipedal · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domtyler

What a shame we can't call them institutionally cyclist!

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hevipedal · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dondare

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domtyler

You guys (Hackbike, DontDare etc.) probably think the same when you hear how over-represented young black men are in the police stats, i.e. if they didn't go round stabbing each other and committing petty and violent street crime then they would not be getting themselves arrested. While being ultimately true, it hides the underlying institutionalised prejudice that is revealed by the stats.

One thing that I can say for a fact is that you lot are simple minded dinosaurs from a forgotten era who should wake up (Once you've stopped mourning Bernard Mannings death).

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Everybody feels persecuted. Drivers would claim that they are persecuted with speed cameras and punitative fines for using mobile 'phones. Some say that white, married, gainfully employed middle-class property owners are persecuted the most.
I mentioned that in Hackney there was (probably still is) only a 10% chance of a driver involved in a road accident to have insurance. Why do you think the police don't act? It's not because they're all out persecuting cyclists.
I don't get the link between obeying sensible laws and Bernard Manning. Must be because I'm a simple-minded dinosaur.

"da sapienti et addetur ei sapientia doce iustum et festinabit accipere."
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as a police officer I feel terribly persecuted by the comments on this thread.....................

 Hevipedal 
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domtyler · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by hevipedal
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dondare
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domtyler
You guys (Hackbike, DontDare etc.) probably think the same when you hear how over-represented young black men are in the police stats, i.e. if they didn't go round stabbing each other and committing petty and violent street crime then they would not be getting themselves arrested. While being ultimately true, it hides the underlying institutionalised prejudice that is revealed by the stats.

One thing that I can say for a fact is that you lot are simple minded dinosaurs from a forgotten era who should wake up (Once you've stopped mourning Bernard Mannings death).

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Everybody feels persecuted. Drivers would claim that they are persecuted with speed cameras and punitative fines for using mobile 'phones. Some say that white, married, gainfully employed middle-class property owners are persecuted the most.
I mentioned that in Hackney there was (probably still is) only a 10% chance of a driver involved in a road accident to have insurance. Why do you think the police don't act? It's not because they're all out persecuting cyclists.
I don't get the link between obeying sensible laws and Bernard Manning. Must be because I'm a simple-minded dinosaur.

"da sapienti et addetur ei sapientia doce iustum et festinabit accipere."
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as a police officer I feel terribly persecuted by the comments on this thread.....................

 Hevipedal 
Phrase of the week - I've got a bike. You can ride it if you like.
It's got a basket, a bell that rings and
Things to make it look good.
I'd give it to you if I could, but I borrowed it.
 
51yrs old and Proud of it - Made it to 87kg 2 more to go for the target.
Pedal to Paris Sept 2007

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Awww, we were only having a little fun HeviP, don't take it too seriously (or personally)!

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Roastie · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by neill

Shame they're not ticketing all the delivery trucks that park in the cycle lane around the top of the green every single day.
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Have you brought this to their attention?

Hackbike 6 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domtyler

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Hackbike 6

I actually had a row with a copper on the 1997 London-Cambridge bike ride.

He said I was going to RLJ just because of the fact that I was going up to a red light pretty fast.

I was going to stop but he didn't believe me on the basis that other cyclists had done it on that ride.[v]

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I wouldn't have believed you either, I have seen your atrocious cycling skills and they made my blood run cold. how many pedestrians have you mown down now btw?

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I have complained about your post.I think it is totally out of order.

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b@kes · June 2007

I wish admin would ban red-light related comments
it's such an over-argued point
there will never be consensus

Hackbike 6 should be persecuted for his RLJ hate-crimes too

firsthippy · June 2007

Helmet and RLJ pro/con threads are crap - think of something else to argue about!

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Nilscp · June 2007

I drive (family in the sticks, heavy shopping etc etc) as well as cycle. I can honestly say I've never once given a crap about cyclists jumping red lights and I seriously doubt anything other than a tiny minority of motorists do.
It's just so staggeringly unimportant.

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Hackbike 6 · June 2007

Probably as you all do it as well.

I remember a time when it was never done.

This isn't about that.This is about domtyler judging my cycling.

Im more responsible than he will ever know.

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BentMikey · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domtyler

I wouldn't have believed you either, I have seen your atrocious cycling skills and they made my blood run cold. how many pedestrians have you mown down now btw?
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Crikey Dom, that's a bit OTT. I think you should apologise to Hackers.

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Oddballcp · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Hackbike 6

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domtyler

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Hackbike 6

I actually had a row with a copper on the 1997 London-Cambridge bike ride.

He said I was going to RLJ just because of the fact that I was going up to a red light pretty fast.

I was going to stop but he didn't believe me on the basis that other cyclists had done it on that ride.[v]

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I wouldn't have believed you either, I have seen your atrocious cycling skills and they made my blood run cold. how many pedestrians have you mown down now btw?

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I have complained about your post.I think it is totally out of order.

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SRSLY?

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Hackbike 6 · June 2007

Sorry but I did.I got injured in both the 1991 collision and the 2006 collision.I didnt think 2 collisions in 31 years of cycling was too bad.

I try to ride responsibly out there following all the rules then I get this.

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BentMikey · June 2007

p.s. I think your cycling is just fine Hackers. It might not be perfect, but then no-one's cycling is, and yours is a very long way from atrocious.

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Hackbike 6 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by BentMikey

p.s. I think your cycling is just fine Hackers. It might not be perfect, but then no-one's cycling is, and yours is a very long way from atrocious.

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Thanks for your support Mikey I appreciate it at a time like this.

I have been looking at my cycling and have been listening to what you have said.Im not always confident enough to take up a primary position believe it or not.I realised I was doing wrong at the mini-rounderbout and changed it and it isn't as bad as I thought it would be.I always lookm out for pedestrains as I don't particulary want to collide with them again obviously.

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gralegav · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nils

I drive (family in the sticks, heavy shopping etc etc) as well as cycle. I can honestly say I've never once given a crap about cyclists jumping red lights and I seriously doubt anything other than a tiny minority of motorists do.
It's just so staggeringly unimportant.

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Well said Nils!
I too drive as well as cycle and it has never bothered me either. I'm also old enough to remember a time when cyclists didn't do it, when there were far fewer motorists who also behaved better generally...

People are so entrenched in their views, I agree with the person who said admin should ban the debate.

BentMikey · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by BentMikey

Crikey Dom, that's a bit OTT. I think you should apologise to Hackers.
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So Dom?

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firsthippy · June 2007

Did I leave a cycling forum and head back to primary school or something?!?!

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The Endorser · June 2007

Our local primary doesn't have a cycle rack, and on't install one because the 'roads are too dangerous' they tell me. Well, manage to cycle them ok, and they're only considered dangerous becuase of all the tw4tty mums that are too bone idle lazy and fat round the arruss to walk it.

Any way, back to topic - moan, slag, bitch, you're all worng, bleat, whittle.....

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