Robert Millar book

yenrodcp · May 2007

Maybe he like many other pro's wanna 'come out' to ??????????????????????????

[;)] 'tuono nel mio cuore...[:)]

Cyclo2000 · May 2007

Tried to buy it in Borders and Waterstones on Saturday but was told it isnae out yet.

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Just once I would like to be called "Sir", without someone adding "You're making a scene".

Unknown · May 2007

I just bought it in Foyles on Saturday.

Am on chapter 4 now.

Pretty good read, although don't think it will replace 'In pursuit of Stardom" as my favourite cycling book.

Bernie S · May 2007

Its a good read Top Bhoy and it does give an insight into Roberts thinking. Its obvious that Richard Moore is a big fan (as I am as Roberts exploits got me into this bike riding business after a 20 year absence)and the book is written with affection inasmuch as what he could give to the sport now he has retired. Its his decision of course but there are those of us who miss his take on things.

top_bhoy · May 2007

Robert Millar was THE cyclist who got me onto a bike and into cycling as a sporting spectacle. I've a huge, huge respect for him and he is a true legend in my eyes. Watching him dance on the pedals up those cols or simply suffering his way up - both awesome in their own way.(I make no apologies for my nostalgic moments[:I]) To think there are so many numpties selling books nowadays and they have achieved or done nothing. I agree that it is Roberts decision and one that I hope, he will reconsider.

Maybe one or two people could do a short review of the Richard Moore book???

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wakemalcolm · May 2007

Is it hardcover only? I was hoping to take it on my holiday round the Alps.

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daowned · May 2007

He did alright for a guy from the Gorbals, cant remember much of him myself he was before my time should be a interesting read tho for any Scotsman.

http://www.letour.fr/HISTO/TDF/riders/us/4635.html

Aidocp · May 2007

I remember being glued to the telly as an 8 year old watching him win the Polka Dot, but never new much about him before or after that. This looks a good read, ordered it last night and will hopefully fill the gaps.

If I had a baby elephant, who would take it for walks?

NervexProf · May 2007

Review of Millar's book here: http://tinyurl.com/24eypk

Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom

Valkyrie · May 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NervexProf

Review of Millar's book here: http://tinyurl.com/24eypk

Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom
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Nice review, moronic comment by "K Blackwell" [:o)]

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top_bhoy · May 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Valkyrie

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NervexProf

Review of Millar's book here: http://tinyurl.com/24eypk

Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom
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Nice review, moronic comment by "K Blackwell" [:o)]

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Agreed - a rather ungracious comment. Talk is cheap from the comfort of the sofa!!

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monty_dogcp · May 2007

Daowned, you fall into the familar trap of believing he's from the Gorbals when he was was Pollokshaws, only a few miles down the down by certainly doesn't have the 'deprived childhood' connitations. Having started cycling in Glasgow, along with others here like Dave 1, he was off in Europe before I turned a pedal in anger, but I knew many others who'd suffered in his wake. Like O'bree after, he suffered at the hands of the cycling establishment - particularly having stuffed the cream of British riders by winning the UK champs as a junior - so it was natural for him to head to Europe. It was through ACCB/Peugeot and his associations with Roche, Anderson, Peiper, Yates and Kelly that lead the English-speaking inluence of cycling that I fondly remember his exploits.

Unknown · June 2007

Just finished reading it. I have to say that it was a well written balanced and fascinating biog. I was not interested in cycling when he was in the pro peloton so this was all (mainly all! new to me).

I recommend this highly to all. The only better written biog I have read is Matt rendell's on pantani. On another note has anyone started Blazing saddles yet? http://tinyurl.com/345hra[url][/url] i just got mine this morning.

Jocksyboy

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by wakemalcolm

Is it hardcover only? I was hoping to take it on my holiday round the Alps.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I think it is at the moment. It's not a large book though, just a bit larger than a paperback.

Unknown · June 2007

I picked it up this morning in Smiths. It already had œ3 off it, then I had a voucher for another œ5 off it making it œ7.99. Then I paid for it using clubcard points making it 'free'.

Looking forward to reading it [:)]

ricadus · June 2007

Drat. More money spent... Oh well...

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Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Jocksyboy
I recommend this highly to all. The only better written biog I have read is Matt rendell's on pantani. On another note has anyone started Blazing saddles yet? http://tinyurl.com/345hra[url][/url] i just got mine this morning.
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I need to order that one and Bad Blood (which looks quite good if a bit bleak)

I'm about 2/3rds of the way through the Millar book and I think it's great. Few flashbacks to the 80's and I feel like revisiting Roche's book about the 87 season.

Unknown · June 2007

Hadn't heard about either Blazing Saddles or Bad Blood. The latter looks very good.

Not so sure about Blazing Saddles though, looks like it could just be lots of tales that I've already read/heard elsewhere, so maybe that could be one to borrow rather than buy *he says before logging onto Amazon*

Noodley · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by iainf72

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Jocksyboy
I recommend this highly to all. The only better written biog I have read is Matt rendell's on pantani. On another note has anyone started Blazing saddles yet? http://tinyurl.com/345hra[url][/url] i just got mine this morning.
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I need to order that one and Bad Blood (which looks quite good if a bit bleak)

I'm about 2/3rds of the way through the Millar book and I think it's great. Few flashbacks to the 80's and I feel like revisiting Roche's book about the 87 season.

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I have just spent a considerable time and amount of money on amazon - about time there were more decent cycling books published, and it looks like they have al arrived at once.

K Blackwell · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Valkyrie

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NervexProf

Review of Millar's book here: http://tinyurl.com/24eypk

Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom
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Nice review, moronic comment by "K Blackwell" [:o)]

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<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Why's that? Is it because he's Scottish and therefore so precious he must be the best? The fact remains that Simpson won major classics and was World Road Champ, and Paris - Nice; and 6th place in the 62 Tour and held the Yellow Jersey for a day.
So, when I here comments that Millar was Britain's best rider by far makes me laugh because the results book says otherwise. That's of course unless you consider that only the Tour de France doesn't matter.

I also admire Millar, but for a review to make the comments they did is well short of the mark.

So, if my comments are moronic: tough, I stand by them.

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by K Blackwell

Why's that? Is it because he's Scottish and therefore so precious he must be the best? The fact remains that Simpson won major classics and was World Road Champ, and Paris - Nice; and 6th place in the 62 Tour and held the Yellow Jersey for a day.
So, when I here comments that Millar was Britain's best rider by far makes me laugh because the results book says otherwise. That's of course unless you consider that only the Tour de France doesn't matter.

I also admire Millar, but for a review to make the comments they did is well short of the mark.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I think you're comparing apples with oranges. One was a man for the classics, the other a man for the major tours.

But Millar was 4th in the Tour and runner-up in both the Vuelta and the Giro. He was, I think, also the only British rider to win stages in all three major Tours. His palmares is impressive and certainly makes him Britain's best ever stage race rider.

K Blackwell · June 2007

Andy - Without a doubt Millar was Britain's best stage race rider and I have the DVD's of his successes. But the comment was that Millar was Britain's best ever cyclist; and by a long way.

Overall, in my opinion, and by other judges, Simpson was rated higher.

Of course some take it as a personal attack on their hero, like the Scot calling me a moron. Well, he should read the record books.

Or is wrong to voice an alternative opinion? Obviously not.

Unknown · June 2007

I think your opinion is valid and well reasoned. If you look at Simpson's overall palmares (with a World Title and 3 monuments) then I'd tend to agree - his wins are of the top drawer.

Resorting to comments like 'moronic' is unnecessary and rude.

Noodley · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by andyp

I think your opinion is valid and well reasoned. If you look at Simpson's overall palmares (with a World Title and 3 monuments) then I'd tend to agree - his wins are of the top drawer.

Resorting to comments like 'moronic' is unnecessary and rude.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

as is trying to imply "scottishness" had anything to do with the opinion expressed

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Noodley

as is trying to imply "scottishness" had anything to do with the opinion expressed
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Not sure if I agree Noodley. More a statement of opinion than an insult.

Valkyrie · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Why's that? Is it because he's Scottish and therefore so precious he must be the best? The fact remains that Simpson won major classics and was World Road Champ, and Paris - Nice; and 6th place in the 62 Tour and held the Yellow Jersey for a day.
So, when I here comments that Millar was Britain's best rider by far makes me laugh because the results book says otherwise. That's of course unless you consider that only the Tour de France doesn't matter.

I also admire Millar, but for a review to make the comments they did is well short of the mark.

So, if my comments are moronic: tough, I stand by them.
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I'll apologise for my own bit of moronic comment - I expressed myself better on the Guardians site.

As Andyp says, its apples & oranges, and perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree. I also admire Simpsons achievments, but I think Millar's surpasses them.

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Noodley · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by andyp

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Noodley

as is trying to imply "scottishness" had anything to do with the opinion expressed
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Not sure if I agree Noodley. More a statement of opinion than an insult.
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aye, fair enough although I would not think anyone from Scotland would mention "nationality" in any retort to why Simpson should not be recognised as Britain's best cyclist. For example would it be acceptable if I were to post:

Is it because he's English and therefore so precious he must be the best?

Unlikely. Some people just have the desire to make an "issue" where there is none.

K Blackwell · June 2007

When Millar won the stage in the Pyrenees it was one of the most exciting things I've seen in cycling. A Scot/Brit winning a mountain stage in the Tour had me jumping for joy.

My comments were not said out of spite or to denigrate Millar's achievements, but to question the hyperbole of the statement in the Torygraph.

In fact, I believe he would have won the Vuelta (he was fiddled) and more Tour stages, but he was lacking friends in the peloton.

Noodley · June 2007

aye he was *fiddled* with the Vuelta. Fair enough, he was what he was and is what he is...I think he would add to cycling, but it is his choice. I look forward to reading the book.

K Blackwell · June 2007

I will buy the book and no doubt enjoy it.

I'm not anti-Scottish BTW. My grandfather was a Scot. I work with a lot as well and they are very good. However, I never talk about football at a national level. The rationality, intelligence and humour they have goes out the window.

It's the old joke that the English will cheer for the Scots, but never the other way around!!!

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