Pro Tour Pundit '07
Just thought I'd start a new thread for the second season of PTP. Can anyone beat mangaman, our reigning champion?
If you didn't play last year, it's very easy. At the botton of this post is a list of the races included in the competition - before each race look out for a new thread, usually titled "Race Name - Pro Tour Pundit" or something similar.
Simply use your expert cycling knowledge and pick a winner for each race! If it's a single-day race, you only need to pick one rider, but if it's a stage-race, you need to pick someone for the overall classification, but you can earn extra points by predicting the winner of each stage too.
It's that simple, but it's also good fun and adds a bit of interest when your watching the races on telly!
The scoring system:
Last year's top 10:
If you didn't play last year, it's very easy. At the botton of this post is a list of the races included in the competition - before each race look out for a new thread, usually titled "Race Name - Pro Tour Pundit" or something similar.
Simply use your expert cycling knowledge and pick a winner for each race! If it's a single-day race, you only need to pick one rider, but if it's a stage-race, you need to pick someone for the overall classification, but you can earn extra points by predicting the winner of each stage too.
It's that simple, but it's also good fun and adds a bit of interest when your watching the races on telly!
The scoring system:
GC | TdF | Vuelta/Giro | Majors | Minors ---------------------------------------------- 1 | 100 | 85 | 50 | 40 2 | 75 | 65 | 40 | 30 3 | 60 | 50 | 35 | 25 4 | 55 | 45 | 30 | 20 5 | 50 | 40 | 25 | 15 6 | 45 | 35 | 20 | 11 7 | 40 | 30 | 15 | 7 8 | 35 | 26 | 10 | 5 9 | 30 | 22 | 5 | 3 10 | 25 | 19 | 2 | 1 11 | 20 | 16 | | 12 | 15 | 13 | | 13 | 12 | 11 | | 14 | 10 | 9 | | 15 | 8 | 7 | | 16 | 6 | 5 | | 17 | 5 | 4 | | 18 | 4 | 3 | | 19 | 3 | 2 | | 20 | 2 | 1 | | Stages, where applicable: Stages | TdF | Vuelta/Giro | Majors | Minors ---------------------------------------------- 1 | 10 | 8 | 3 | n/a 2 | 5 | 4 | 2 | n/a 3 | 3 | 2 | 1 | n/a
MAJORS = <font color="red">RED</font id="red"> | MINORS = <font color="blue">BLUE</font id="blue">
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MAR 11-18 - PARIS-NICE
14-20 - TIRRENO-ADRIATICO
24 - MILANO-SAN REMO
APR 08 - TOUR OF FLANDERS
09-14 - VUELTA AL PAIS-VASCO</font id="red">
<font color="blue"> 11 - GENT-WEVELGEM</font id="blue">
<font color="red"> 15 - PARIS-ROUBAIX</font id="red">
<font color="blue"> 22 - AMSTEL GOLD RACE
25 - LA FLECHE WALLONE</font id="blue">
<font color="red"> 29 - LIEGE-BASTOGNE-LIEGE
MAY 01-06 - TOUR DE ROMANDIE</font id="red">
12-03 - GIRO D'ITALIA
<font color="red"> 21-27 - VOLTA A CATALUNYA
JUN 10-17 - DAUPHINE LIBERE
16-24 - TOUR DE SUISSE</font id="red">
<font color="blue"> 24 - EINDHOVEN TTT</font id="blue">
JUL 07-29 - TOUR DE FRANCE
<font color="blue">AUG 04 - CLASICA SAN SEBASTIAN</font id="blue">
<font color="red"> 10-18 - DEUTSCHLAND TOUR</font id="red">
<font color="blue"> 19 - VATTENFALL CYCLASSICS</font id="blue">
<font color="red"> 22-29 - ENECO TOUR</font id="red">
SEP 01-23 - VUELTA A ESPANA
<font color="blue"> 02 - GP OUEST FRANCE-PLOUAY</font id="blue">
<font color="red"> 09-15 - TOUR DE POLOGNE</font id="red">
<font color="blue">OCT 07 - ZURI-METZGETE</font id="blue">
<font color="red"> 14 - PARIS-TOURS
20 - GIRO DI LOMBARDIA</font id="red">
Last year's top 10:
1. mangaman - 817 2. Dave_1 - 769 3. yace - 737 4. iainf72 - 692 5. Timoid - 668 6. andrewgturnbull - 665 7. MarkM - 621 8. RichN95 - 568 9. afx237vi - 561 10. GroupOfOne - 549
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...and it is very addictive! [:)]0
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Just a quick question
In Stage races how long into an individual stage can we pick a winner. Can we pick a winner during the stage, say if there is a breakaway and it doesn't look like they are going to get caught? Or do you have to pick before the stage has started?0 -
I would say you must pick your winner before coverage starts.0
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Yeah, I think we must pick our winner before the start of a stage...
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Yes, the pick must be made prior to the start. I don't think there would be too much grumbling if there was a one-off *last minute*, as in just after the off, pick when the poster was genuine but certainly not waiting until a break formed - that's part of the fun, trying to guess who might get into a breakaway or who looks as if they my want to stir it up a bit. You'd be as well no bothering if you made a choice like that - kind of like waiting to see how many horses are left at the last fence at the Grand National before placing your bet or deciding to say at half time in a football match that the team leading 5-0 will win.0
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*bump*
Dear Moderator.
Can you make this thread a sticky - not the Paris-Nice one?
Thanks in advance, Andy
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<h2>Overall scores following Paris-Nice</h2>
OVERALL SCORES ---------------------- Keith Oates: 59 Dave_1: 54 redbicycle: 52 yace: 50 afx237vi: 50 Timoid: 41 mangaman: 30 Greggyr: 19 DeanMoriarty: 14 skut: 13 tombt: 13 Stephen Sorba: 12 andyp: 11 GroupOfOne: 10 shazzz: 10 LangerDan 10 Top_Bhoy: 10 Hassan: 10 TonyW43: 10 andrewgturnbull: 10 laurence: 8 Nicolo 6 Mr Bumble: 5 iainf72: 5 Calvjones: 3 rideragsy: 3 ContrelaMontre: 2 weyayeman: 1 RichN95: 1 Emax 0 illuminated_523: 0 jdfyfe: 0 guv001: 0 miffed: 0 Ridgerider: 0
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<h2>Overall scores following Tirreno-Adriatico</h2>
OVERALL SCORES ---------------------- Keith Oates: 59 ContrelaMontre: 58 Dave_1: 55 redbicycle: 52 afx237vi: 52 yace: 50 GroupOfOne: 42 Timoid: 41 mangaman: 30 Greggyr: 19 DeanMoriarty: 16 skut: 15 Stephen Sorba: 14 Top_Bhoy: 13 andrewgturnbull: 13 tombt: 13 andyp: 13 shazzz: 12 LangerDan 12 Hassan: 10 TonyW43: 10 laurence: 8 Nicolo 7 Mr Bumble: 5 iainf72: 5 RichN95: 5 jdfyfe: 4 Calvjones: 4 rideragsy: 3 weyayeman: 1 Emax 1 miffed: 1 Ridgerider: 1 illuminated_523: 0 guv001: 0 Richard Ramirez: 0
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by afx237vi</i>
<h2>Overall scores following Tirreno-Adriatico</h2>
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OVERALL SCORES
Keith Oates: 59
ContrelaMontre: 58
Dave_1: 55
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Stop the league I wanna get off!!
Only joking! I'm sure I can keep my performance up [8)]! Shucks I'm going to start feeling pressure to perform![:I]
Well, for the time being, the top 3 feels good, and I'm going to try and stay there all season![8D][8D][8D]
Herd of gnus?
No! What's the news?
Rule No.10 // It never gets easier, you just go faster0 -
<h2>Overall scores following Milan-San Remo</h2>
Keith Oates retains the lead. Keith, CLM and myself are the early pace-setters with two 1st place picks in the opening three events. But don't worry if you're a little behind or haven't played yet - it's a long ol' season, and there's no way my form can hold for much longer!OVERALL SCORES ---------------------- Keith Oates: 109 ContrelaMontre: 108 afx237vi: 102 Timoid: 91 mangaman: 65 skut: 65 andyp: 63 LangerDan 62 Dave_1: 55 jdfyfe: 54 redbicycle: 52 yace: 50 shazzz: 47 laurence: 43 GroupOfOne: 42 Mr Bumble: 40 andrewgturnbull: 38 miffed: 36 guv001: 35 psychiatricblues: 35 RichN95: 30 Greggyr: 19 DeanMoriarty: 16 Stephen Sorba: 14 Top_Bhoy: 13 tombt: 13 Hassan: 10 TonyW43: 10 Richard Ramirez: 10 cooper.michael1: 10 Nicolo: 7 iainf72: 5 Calvjones: 4 rideragsy: 3 weyayeman: 1 Emax: 1 Ridgerider: 1 illuminated_523: 0 brainstemdowry: 0 Ashley_R: 0 007stucumber: 0
Next race: April 8th, Tour of Flanders!0 -
I had a beer with the good Keith Oates here in Hong Kong on Friday night and he knows his stuff when it comes to picking bike race winners! Well done Keith!
Freire is gaining fairly major status now..I'd put him at or above any current rider now
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave_1</i>
I had a beer with the good Keith Oates here in Hong Kong on Friday night and he knows his stuff when it comes to picking bike race winners! Well done Keith!
Freire is gaining fairly major status now..I'd put him at or above any current rider now
________Our behaviour is a function of our experience.
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I have a similar deep wellspring of talent as Oscar, but applicable to PTP. Unfortunately I am suffering with a early season boil in a sensitive place that is affecting my picks.
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I had a beer with the good Keith Oates here in Hong Kong on Friday night and he knows his stuff when it comes to picking bike race winners! Well done Keith!
Freire is gaining fairly major status now..I'd put him at or above any current rider now
________Our behaviour is a function of our experience.
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I have a similar deep wellspring of talent as Oscar, but applicable to PTP. Unfortunately I am suffering with a early season boil in a sensitive place that is affecting my picks.
Did you get planning permission for that sense of humour bypass?
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Sorry to hear of your affliction - it certainly explains your <s>extremely diabolical </s>slightly disappointing start to the season![;)]
Herd of gnus?
No! What's the news?
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Rule No.10 // It never gets easier, you just go faster0 -
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ContrelaMontre</i>
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Calvjones</i>
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave_1</i>
I had a beer with the good Keith Oates here in Hong Kong on Friday night and he knows his stuff when it comes to picking bike race winners! Well done Keith!
Freire is gaining fairly major status now..I'd put him at or above any current rider now
________Our behaviour is a function of our experience.
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I have a similar deep wellspring of talent as Oscar, but applicable to PTP. Unfortunately I am suffering with a early season boil in a sensitive place that is affecting my picks.
Did you get planning permission for that sense of humour bypass?
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Sorry to hear of your affliction - it certainly explains your <s>extremely diabolical </s>slightly disappointing start to the season![;)]
Herd of gnus?
No! What's the news?
<font size="1">WANTED: rear track wheel clincher</font id="size1">
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Remember Lance's sandbagging at the bottom of the Alpe in 2001 just before this:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7THIhZEP4QM
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Not so cocky now, eh!?[:D]
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Quaking
Herd of gnus?
No! What's the news?
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Rule No.10 // It never gets easier, you just go faster0 -
Not wishing to blow my own trumpet or anything... but WOOHOO! The first time I have ever donned to coveted PTP maillot...
<h2>Overall scores following the Ronde van Vlaanderen:</h2>OVERALL SCORES ---------------------- afx237vi: 152 skut: 115 Keith Oates: 109 ContrelaMontre: 108 GroupOfOne: 92 Timoid: 91 mangaman: 65 andyp: 63 LangerDan 62 Dave_1: 55 Noodley: 54 redbicycle: 52 yace: 50 ricadus: 50 shazzz: 47 laurence: 43 Mr Bumble: 40 andrewgturnbull: 38 miffed: 36 guv001: 35 psychiatricblues: 35 MontyDog: 35 RichN95: 30 Greggyr: 19 DeanMoriarty: 16 Stephen Sorba: 14 Top_Bhoy: 13 tombt: 13 Hassan: 10 TonyW43: 10 Richard Ramirez: 10 cooper.michael1: 10 Nicolo: 7 iainf72: 5 Calvjones: 4 rideragsy: 3 weyayeman: 1 Emax: 1 Ridgerider: 1
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Hooray!![:D][:p]0
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Ridgerider was the only person to score in G-W, moving him off the basement up into mid-table...
<h2>Overall scores following Gent-Wevelgem:</h2>OVERALL SCORES ---------------------- afx237vi: 152 skut: 115 Keith Oates: 109 ContrelaMontre: 108 GroupOfOne: 92 Timoid: 91 mangaman: 65 andyp: 63 LangerDan 62 Dave_1: 55 Noodley: 54 redbicycle: 52 yace: 50 ricadus: 50 shazzz: 47 laurence: 43 Ridgerider: 41 Mr Bumble: 40 andrewgturnbull: 38 miffed: 36 guv001: 35 psychiatricblues: 35 MontyDog: 35 RichN95: 30 Greggyr: 19 DeanMoriarty: 16 Stephen Sorba: 14 Top_Bhoy: 13 tombt: 13 Hassan: 10 TonyW43: 10 Richard Ramirez: 10 cooper.michael1: 10 Nicolo: 7 iainf72: 5 Calvjones: 4 rideragsy: 3 weyayeman: 1 Emax: 1
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...beautiful mid table!
<font size="1"><font color="blue">Half man</font id="blue">, <i><font color="green"> Half bike</font id="green"></i></font id="size1">Half man, Half bike0 -
<h2>Overall scores following the Vuelta al Pais Vasco:</h2>
OVERALL SCORES ---------------------- afx237vi: 154 Keith Oates: 134 skut: 117 Timoid: 116 ContrelaMontre: 108 andyp: 99 GroupOfOne: 96 Noodley: 93 mangaman: 91 Dave_1: 82 laurence: 80 yace: 75 andrewgturnbull: 74 shazzz: 72 LangerDan 62 guv001: 60 RichN95: 60 redbicycle: 52 ricadus: 50 Ridgerider: 41 Mr Bumble: 40 Stephen Sorba: 40 miffed: 36 psychiatricblues: 35 MontyDog: 35 weyayeman: 31 Anton de Lacey: 30 iainf72: 30 Greggyr: 19 DeanMoriarty: 19 Top_Bhoy: 13 tombt: 13 Hassan: 10 TonyW43: 10 Richard Ramirez: 10 cooper.michael1: 10 Nicolo: 7 Calvjones: 7 rideragsy: 3 Emax: 1
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<h2>Overall scores after Paris-Roubaix</h2>
OVERALL SCORES ---------------------- afx237vi: 154 andyp: 139 Keith Oates: 134 ContrelaMontre: 123 laurence: 120 skut: 117 Timoid: 116 GroupOfOne: 96 Noodley: 93 mangaman: 91 Dave_1: 82 yace: 75 andrewgturnbull: 74 shazzz: 72 LangerDan 62 guv001: 60 RichN95: 60 miffed: 56 Ridgerider: 56 redbicycle: 52 iainf72: 50 ricadus: 50 Croxted Avenger: 40 Mr Bumble: 40 Stephen Sorba: 40 psychiatricblues: 35 MontyDog: 35 weyayeman: 31 Anton de Lacey: 30 Greggyr: 19 DeanMoriarty: 19 hot rod: 15 Gragi: 15 Top_Bhoy: 13 tombt: 13 Hassan: 10 TonyW43: 10 Richard Ramirez: 10 cooper.michael1: 10 Nicolo: 7 Calvjones: 7 rideragsy: 3 Emax: 1
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Ooh, it's tight at the top now!
<h2>Overall scores after the Amstel Gold Race</h2>OVERALL SCORES ---------------------- afx237vi: 154 andyp: 154 Keith Oates: 145 skut: 128 Timoid: 127 laurence: 125 ContrelaMontre: 123 GroupOfOne: 111 Noodley: 98 Dave_1: 97 mangaman: 91 shazzz: 87 andrewgturnbull: 79 LangerDan 77 yace: 75 RichN95: 75 iainf72: 75 guv001: 67 miffed: 67 Ridgerider: 56 redbicycle: 52 Mr Bumble: 51 ricadus: 50 Stephen Sorba: 47 Greggyr: 44 Croxted Avenger: 40 Anton de Lacey: 35 psychiatricblues: 35 MontyDog: 35 weyayeman: 31 Gragi: 30 DeanMoriarty: 20 hot rod: 22 Nicolo: 22 Top_Bhoy: 13 tombt: 13 vermooten: 11 Hassan: 10 TonyW43: 10 Richard Ramirez: 10 cooper.michael1: 10 Calvjones: 8 Cheshire_Cat: 5 millar time: 5 rideragsy: 3 Emax: 1 mouse: 1
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uh-oh.
ContrelaMontre is not happy with that!
[:(][xx(][V]
Herd of gnus?
No! What's the news?
<font size="1">WANTED: rear track wheel clincher</font id="size1">
Rule No.10 // It never gets easier, you just go faster0 -
If only I hadn't been injured for RVV and PR
TdG0 -
If only I was any good at this[:(][:(][:(][:(]
Did you get planning permission for that sense of humour bypass?0 -
Maximum points in the Fleche, Calv, so stick in there!
<h2>Overall scores after la Fleche Wallone:</h2>OVERALL SCORES ---------------------- afx237vi: 179 Keith Oates: 175 Timoid: 157 andyp: 154 skut: 153 Dave_1: 127 shazzz: 127 GroupOfOne: 126 laurence: 125 ContrelaMontre: 123 Noodley: 123 andrewgturnbull: 119 LangerDan 107 guv001: 97 miffed: 97 mangaman: 91 Croxted Avenger: 80 yace: 75 RichN95: 75 iainf72: 75 Stephen Sorba: 62 Ridgerider: 56 Gragi: 55 redbicycle: 52 Mr Bumble: 51 ricadus: 50 Calvjones: 48 Greggyr: 44 graham56: 40 Anton de Lacey: 35 psychiatricblues: 35 MontyDog: 35 weyayeman: 31 DeanMoriarty: 27 hot rod: 22 Nicolo: 22 millar time: 20 andyr: 15 Top_Bhoy: 13 tombt: 13 vermooten: 11 Hassan: 10 TonyW43: 10 Richard Ramirez: 10 cooper.michael1: 10 cardinal guzman: 7 Cheshire_Cat: 5 rideragsy: 3 Emax: 1 mouse: 1
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ContrelaMontre: 123
Noodley: 123
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Bananarama!! [:D]
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ContrelaMontre: 123
Noodley: 123
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Bananarama!! [:D]
How did you manage to let me catch you up?! [;)]...it'll never last
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[:(][:I][:(]
I reckon we might be close all year. Shall we have a prize for the winner of our personal competition?
I give you the pink banana guard - http://tinyurl.com/2qqmma - the prize!!
What do you reckon noodley? Do we have a bet?
Herd of gnus?
No! What's the news?
<font size="1">WANTED: rear track wheel clincher</font id="size1">
Rule No.10 // It never gets easier, you just go faster0 -
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ContrelaMontre</i>
What do you reckon noodley? Do we have a bet?
Herd of gnus?
No! What's the news?
<font size="1">WANTED: rear track wheel clincher</font id="size1">
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Ohh you're a right competitive bugger [;)] Go on then, how can I resist the lure of a pink banana holder as a prize [:)]
(I *may* be choosing the same rider(s) as you for L-B-L but then again maybe not...)0
