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It means they can spend the savings on long term contracts with Capita
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Suspect this is just words. If fantasy savings can pay for tax giveaways I'm sure they work for defence spending, too.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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You miss-spelt the name, it's CRAPITA
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Yep, it's ludicrous and just sums up the sort of shite they spout as policy. They also overlook that there would be all those Civil Servants needing to find new work and potentially relying on benefits. It also pre-supposes they aren't doing anything in which case why do their roles even exist?
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The BBC were picking them up yesterday on them passing it off as new money when most of it was already committed although as the Minister being interviewed pointed out that is the way these things are accounted for. All smoke and mirrors. See also 'record spending' which is something you would expect if you assume economies are constantly growing.
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Irony thread crossover. I work for the Defence Ministry. We have desperate staff gaps due to an ongoing recruitment freeze that seriously affects outputs. So the increase in Defence funding that may go to funding the staff we need is now negated by the blunt approach to slashing CS headcount to pay for that.
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You can make as many bold assumptions as you like when you're not going to be in power. 😉
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
The tax giveaways were also partly paid for by both genuine and fantasy tax rises. As well as fantasy cuts.
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Can't help but think it must be liberating for Foreign secretary not to have to bother with boring constituency or MP work so he can fly around all week, with enough time over to film heavily produced videos telling everyone how busy he's been.
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You can see why he took the job 😁
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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It's a nice way for him to get to be a lord without anyone looking into the unpleasantness, but he seems pretty good at it. Only has to do it for a year or so and keeps the robes for life.
Maybe he could stay on under Labour, he doesn't seem to have any firmly held beliefs that would get in the way. Not any they would object to, anyway.
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When he was PM every foreign negotiation he did ended in some kind of failure. I am sceptical that he is actually good and I think our standards have slipped because of the utter dross we've had in the role in the meantime.
Everything Cameron has touched turned to dogshit. The singular good thing he did was legalise gay marriage. That's it.
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He's still the best Conservative PM of the 21st century by a considerable margin though.
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There was the big society. By swinging austerity he erroded living standards so much that people started to barter with one another and try to repair white goods again, and build community that way.
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You don't buy into the argument he was, in fact, the worst, and everything that came after him was a really a consequence of his decisions?
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It's an argument I suppose. For me he wasn't too bad and did an OK job in difficult times. He then made an absolutely monumental **** up at a time where he could have been governing with a reasonable majority and an improving financial situation. He panicked at the threat of UKIP and the right-wing of the Party but ironically in giving them what they craved has ultimately handed control of the Party to the very same nutters he was trying to molify.
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I think there is a pretty good argument that he has had the most negative impact of any prime minister in my lifetime. But it is a close run thing with Johnson and Thatcher.
I can trace the push for Scottish independence to Thatcher and I don't have enough strength in my thumbs to list the things I disagreed with. And which is worst, giving people the option of Brexit, campaigning for it with lies, campaigning against it with warm lettuce, or negotiating a hard Brexit?
On balance, because not everything under Thatcher was bad and because Cameron didn't actually do all that much at all, I actually think Johnson wins worst PM of the last 50 years.
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Well thought out there...
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I'd say Truss is the worst - luckily it was mitigated by her tenure being so short. Can you imagine the mess we'd be in now had she remained until the GE?
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How's that going to stop people who want to come over in the boats anyway? If they think they are oK by getting here, why risk being processed and turned down?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Look, they're gonna come anyway, right?
Might as well give them safer, more policeable routes to do so.
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Pretty sure that effectively saying 'come on in, as many as you like' will encourage more to come. You may want unlimited immigration but that's not realistic.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
You're ignoring that this is what we have just done with Albania and were doing in France before 2016. In both instances it was/is broadly working. Talking bollox about Rwanda has so far coincided with an increase in Channel crossings so I don't think even a loyalist such as yourself can consider this to be working.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Sorry, are we now pretending that we haven't been handing out visas like flyers outside a tube station?
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Has anyone at Party HQ managed to find a map of Africa and work out if Rwanda and Congo are different countries yet?
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Aren't they all not just districts of Africa? 😉
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Maybe they could pass a law declaring that to be the case, to simplify things for Tory MPs.
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Seems the Rwanda plan is having an impact - according to the former Irish Taoiseach.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
