LEAVE the Conservative Party and save your country!
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They will have Lib Dem style leaflets saying "Only Conservatives can beat Labour here."
The irony of them needing to beg for tactical voting to make it vaguely respectable because of first past the post.
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Honestly, I think the conservatives have very little to offer the reform voters, and Starmer is not really scary enough to frighten people into voting for the conservatives.
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The ones I see online generally hold the conservatives and labour in equal contempt.
They might really like the idea of the Rwanda policy, but it's not actually happened, and the Tories have overseen record numbers of legal immigration.
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I know a handful and have to meet them regularly because of in-laws.
I can promise you they want to vote Tory but they keep kicking out people like Lee Andersen. They think the Rwanda bill is great but not extreme enough.
They hate labour more than anything. Ed Miliband, their local MP, is the devil to them. Honestly.
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There's something in Reform voters about weaponised nostalgia, but I haven't really given it enough thought to get to an end point that I can articulate - suffice to say there is something in the far right about nostalgia and how they use it which really plays into the sort of boomer or retired radicalisation you tend to see (have seen it in my own mother-in-law).
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My impression is that they are also quite an entitled bunch who are very happy with increasing government spending so long as it is on them and not foreigners. Johnson won those seats with all those promises to level up and be mean to foreigners.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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For sure.
What really really gets them foaming at the mouth is the idea that non-British citizens are allowed access to public services. Like, properly angry.
When I explain that was my mother giving birth to my sister, that's different because we're "christian" aka white.
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Perhaps Reform perform a useful function by soaking up these votes so that everyone else can ignore them.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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They won’t vote reform push come to shove. For sure. They want to kick the Tories less than they want labour to lose.
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If it looks definite that the Tories are going to lose, why not vote to send a message?
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I think there are quite a few that don't understand tactical voting though and can end up losing the Tories seats as a result especially in those 'red wall' seats.
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And these people are rushing out to vote for a Hindu PM?
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In the case of my Dad who is of the "Post War" generation, most definitely not.
They are out and out racists who try to hide it unless in the "right" company.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
A few days ago I had to explain something to a special needs person in my family. They had met a black person with pale palms for the first time and asked me about washing the dark colour off. I explained that it was normal and actually it was us who had changed our skin colour when we moved further north a long long time ago.
Unlike a Reform voter, I think this person with learning disabilities understood and will simply accept their new acquaintance at face value next time.
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I'm starting to think that the Telegraph is as batshit crazy as Truss.
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Not before time. That alone would be a vote-winner for Labour there, I suspect. As documented at length in Private Eye.
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A Truss comeback will definitely leave labour shaking in their boots.
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Starting to think BT? The Telegraph jumped the shark years ago, they print nothing but deranged neo con lunacy these days.
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Stewart Lee on good form.
On 10 April, Neil told his social media followers: “The hard left throws about ‘Tufton Street’ the way the hard right throws about ‘Globalist’ and ‘Soros’… It’s become a cover for them to avoid thinking/analysing.” Meanwhile, the same Dubai-based Legatum Group that owns half of Neil’s former employer GB News also boasts the Russian oligarch-coddling life peer Matthew Elliott of the Tufton Street thinktank Vote Leave and the Tufton Street thinktank the TaxPayers’ Alliance as a senior fellow of its Legatum Institute. There’s nothing to see here, says Andrew Neil, a gaping Sooty for the fist of Tufton Street’s pullcinelean Harry Corbett.
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The Tories simply don't have another 5 years in power in them. They're done.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
That's desperately trying to pull the MAGA stunt of calling everyone non-MAGA of being radical socialists or communists.
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I hate to do this but I am hoping someone on the forum can help me. I am currently locked in a hotel room by some bad people. I need £5k to secure my release. If anyone can help out a grimpeur in distress then PM me immediately please 😉
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Sunak lying again. Sorry, yes, I know that's not really news now.
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14 years they've had to get people back into work.
It's almost like everything they've done has been performative rubbish.
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If your dog wasn't sleeping off that hangover, you could get it to bark and attract attention.
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I was hoping he would be awake by now, but that final whiskey did for him.
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