LEAVE the Conservative Party and save your country!
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Hmm, well, that's what they want voters in the 'red wall' to think, at least. Fortunately so far they haven't had to show their hand.
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If it's true, would you dislike them less?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
No...any more than I disliked the Tories less for spending a shedload of money.
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The dislike of any form of populism (and I was no fan of Corbyn's either) stems mostly from most policies being undeliverable false promises.
Populism is the politics of telling people what they want to hear, regardless of factual basis, by blaming some group or other for some injustice or other. Taps into base human instincts to be part of something that is against something else.
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A bit like a party that says that they will 'fix the foundations', make things more fair, make us green, improve the lot of 'working people', build loads of houses etc - but won't put your taxes up?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
Those aims aren't actually incompatible with one another. And they don't require you to hate anyone.
Besides, are you really now arguing in favour of Reform Stevo?
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Well he is a former Corbyn voter 😁
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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No, I'm explaining how Labour are leftie populists.
Alao I'm not sure that's all achievable without putting up taxes - unless you're going for Rickonomics and just borrowing ad infinitum.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
If that's why you dislike the tories, why the love for Labour?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I know that's what you are trying to do, but all you are actually doing is labeling all politics as populist.
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You apparently haven't read the 6347 posts where I've said I voted for them to get the Tories out. If you can find one post where I say I love them, I'll send you a Mars Bar.
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Yep, so in that case it's not just the ones that lefties call populist.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Okay, so the Conservatives are populist?
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So you hate the Tories for spending money, but Labour are spending more of it...should you not hate them more? I'm expecting a Vorderman-esque tirelade but against Labour.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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I feel like the point has been somewhat missed.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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Oopsie, I missed the word 'less'....
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I think Brian can make his own points.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Come on Stevo....
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I'm saying they all are. So you need to choose on another basis.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Fair enough. I think that's the first balanced thing you've said about the Tories.
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I meant the point of the article that I posted. The Conservatives tried doing populist in 2019 and it worked when the opposition was Corbyn but it left them with too many unfulfillable promises and has since blown up pretty spectacularly. It's not going to work better a second time.
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Seems Labour are discovering the same thing right now.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Not sure what populist thing you think they promised. They seemed to be going out of their way to not promise very much at all. We all knew that taxes were going up and that has indeed happened. I seem to be one of the few that thinks cancelling the bloated WFA was a good idea, but I'm not sure that qualifies as populist. Reforming planning hardly counts as populist either. Was there something else?
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I would say Starmer is going out of his way to almost be anti populist and paint himself as a boring dull but possibly competent pair of hands.
It's very much an anti Boris type thing.
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Read my post upthread about what they promised.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
He doesn't have to go out of his way, he is boring and dull. Spitting image from 2021 had him sussed
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
They didn't promise not to put anybody's taxes up. Just a very specific subset of taxes paid by some people.
You can have half a point as they should have just reversed the idiotic NIC cut.
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It was about more than tax - have another look.
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