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The art museums were the best part of our Madrid visit.
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I think Salvator Mundi and John the Baptist are far more interesting da Vinci portraits than the Mona Lisa, so I might agree with you there. That said I do wish people would stop thinking art has to be nice. Some of the most moving stuff is downright disturbing.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I'm kinda with you on this Pross, although I do find the older stuff interesting as it is also window on a past world and events. Agree with you on the Sistine Chapel.
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I think art is in visual arts of painting, sculpture etc. are probably something that most of us connect to on an emotional level. I understand when people say they don't get art, but I don't think it is about getting it as such, you either respond to it in some way or you don't. Nothing wrong if it mostly doesn't connect with you in some way, I think people tend to over intellectualise it, whereas if you look at it from the artists perspective they are generally trying to express something, not present some complex intellectual proposition. If you look at it that way then I think it becomes easier to make a connection rather than trying to 'work it out' as such.
That's why I love something like the Seagram Murals I mentioned above. You can just sit in the gallery and be surrounded by them. It is quite a contemplative space and I find it relaxing, even though the work was likely created out of quite a dark place in Rothko's life.
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yes, seeing it in person makes a significant difference
these days i'd guess most people without physical access will see just a few seconds of a work on a phone screen and move on
long ago i saw pictures of serra's big wavy steel sculptures and thought little of them, but when in bilbao and first got to walk around/in them and touch the surfaces it was another matter, i found them really engaging, perhaps a bit like the 2001 ape and the monolith 😀
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Highlights from a recent trip to Amsterdam :
i) The Van Gogh art museum
ii) Stedelijk museum of modern art
Ran out of time to visit the MOCO and Rijksmuseum; but that'll be for next time.
In fact, I'm having a bit of burgeoning obsession with Van Gogh at the moment. There was a, rather excellent, Imagine strand documentary -with Benedict Cumberbatch- on BBC4 Tuesday night (available on iPlayer for the next 11 months), and, following that, ordered 'Lust for Life' off Fleabay.
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Yep - when I went to the Louvre, I simply walked through the Mona Lisa Room. There are three Da Vincis (better paintings in my opinion) just hung on the wall of the main gallery. If you wanted to, you could literally touch them.
Guernica "in the flesh" is also one on the bucket list for me.
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I enjoy a lot of the public art on trails , roads and in towns , some are really good and other might be a bit meh, but they usually have some local significance.
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Same here. The Merchant Seaman Memorial in Cardiff Bay is a favourite of mine. Took my breath away first time I saw it.
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This is art I can enjoy, worth watching videos of him creating it https://www.zolaq.de/lightpainting-outdoor
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I like that, long exposure and fannying about with lights I guess.
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Is it okay if I say a lot of those are a bit naff?
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No
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He’s effectively painting on a canvas with invisible paint. The memory to know where he needs to ‘brush’ is pretty incredible (unless he has some hard copy template whine the camera that he uses as a guide.
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Course you can. Just as anyone can say that riding a bike is naff. #subjective
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Thanks. Most of those look like those shitty Christmas decorations you get at Xmas markets.
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You are correct about Christmas decorations but try telling my wife that. I have. 😂
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Just had a look. Not my cup of tea either, even if clever. But clever does not necessarily equal beautiful. Just seems a bit of a passing fad, TBH. But then I'm not terribly enthusiastic about fancy lights for their own sake anyway.
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Passing fad? I know someone who won a photography competition doing similar in 1988.
I guess fads do repeat. 😉
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I suspect that it was technically a lot more complicated back then... I think electric lights had only just been invented, IIRC.
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Art doesn’t equal beautiful in general though. A lot of the most famous works of art aren’t beautiful IMHO.
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There is a correlation in general though. The problem with that "art" you linked to is that its only function appears to be beautiful and sympathetic with the scenery. There is a lot that could be done with the technique, but those particular examples were a bit jarring.
Instead of evoking the weather, animals or plants, they just look like a long exposure of a funfair in places that a funfair doesn't look right.
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That was just one of the galleries, there are others that maybe do more what you are talking about.
https://www.zolaq.de/lightpainting-mit-model
https://www.zolaq.de/experimentelles-lightpainting
Not sure about the art being in "", that's the whole thing with art - people's enjoyment of it differs. I'd rather see the creativity of this stuff to the historically significant but visually boring (to me) stuff in the OP or 90% of what's in the Louvre.
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For me I'm afraid I can't see the point - it's just a clever technique with little to express. Reminds me a bit of Jacob Collier in the music world - ridiculously talented, but these days most of what I hear of his is the cleverness, and I've no idea what he's trying to communicate with it.
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I think some of the modern industrial type art is brilliant. I love the Kelpies in jockland especially when lit at night. However I don't get enthusiastic for the Angel of the North or Gormley,s statues at Crosby. Some of the cave art deep in the French caves is worth a look. Some of banksy's is really good but not all. Some of the graffiti I see dotted about the country is really good but not everyone agrees. As.has been said many times art and beauty are in the eyes of the beholder. Although looking at my ex I have been know to be blind. 😖 at times.
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My views on art should be completely ignored, but here's my opinion: if I'm happy to hang it in on a wall, put it on a mantel piece or put it in the garden, then it's art - otherwise, it's rubbish. There's a bit of grey area for video art.
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I do like the technique, as a form of augmented photography. But I think this particular artist is technically tallented, but artistically not.
I suppose I don't see much relationship between the pretty patterns and the background image.
Also, he has a bad habit of creating shapes that look like the Pringles logo right in the middle of things. Someone needs to tell him when something is finished, before he goes all sour cream and chives.
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