LEAVE the Conservative Party and save your country!
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I think the problem for the Tories is that they desperately want to get back into power, and are trying to find issues that will help them increase their popularity, but I don't think, deep down, that the things they bang on about to try to persuade voters to vote for them, are born out of bedrock of Conservatism, as (largely) delivered by Thatcher, Major and Cameron. It's just a slightly random collection of 'wedge issues' stitched together that oppose left-of-centre politics. It's not a positive vision of how to govern, which is why the government of Johnson and after fell apart so spectacularly: you can't govern with just a collection of trolling points.
It's why so often the response is "Thatcher", as she did have a pretty coherent set of attitudes and beliefs, plus the political skill to drive a lot of those through, in the face of energetic opposition. But it's no use using the 'trump card' of forty years ago in the much different world of 2024. Maybe Labour will screw everything up, and Tories will get back into power, but it'd still be a shitshow if they govern as trolls, as they did from Johnson onwards.
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I suggest that any individual who has an Oxford PPE 'degree' should be automatically banned from 'acting' as a MP 'representative' of Jo and Joe P.
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I'd agree with this, but I think the reason there is no coherent policy is the fact that for some years now the Tory party has not been led by serious people with strong intellectual arguments, moral integrity and a desire to govern. Imagine if Johnson had not purged them all and the Tory's were now led by the likes of Dominic Grieve, David Gauke or Rory Stewart. I think they would have turned the ship around after Johnson and been in power for another decade (not that I am complaining about the fact they aren't as a non Tory!).
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They could absolutely overhaul it in a day if there was the political will. Course they can. They could remove all the rules tomorrow if they really wanted. That’s how parliament works.
It wouldn’t be sensible but any rules can be changed by parliament. Any of them
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What makes you think anyone would make it better? It would just be bad in a different way.
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I would agree that there haven't been significant long term benefits*. But i would argue that it's an example of a policy that's been successfully sold as painful in the short term, but was economically beneficial long term. I think the reality is somewhat more complex, but overall it's an example of something where the country has given a majority to a party promising to do something that is painful in the short term with the promise of long term economic health.
*Arguably the savings that austerity gave us, meant we had headroom for covid spending.
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🙄 Yes, thanks, I know they could of course repeal the T&C Planning Act and just leave it at that. I can absolutely guarantee that would make things many times worse in terms of creating an environment where people want to invest in development. You know when you think it's a bit much people telling you they know your job better than you do?
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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Nope. Borrowing was increasing pre-covid. That and Ukraine are handy excuses but the debt was happening anyway, just increased further. Sweeping everything under the carpet is not a long term plan.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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I would say the biggest issue with austerity was that just as the country was recovering and austerity was starting to be reversed Cameron made a monumental fuck up that put the brakes on recovery and allowed the loons to take over (and then everything got exacerbated by issues that weren’t really in the Government’s control).
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I agree with the basic point on improving the investment environment, but I think evolution of planning rather than revolution is what is needed. Also, while the legislation could be drafted, debated and enacted in a few months, it then needs another year or so for all 317 local authorities to revise their policies to reflect the new legislation. You might start to see the first developments under the new system by the end of 5 years. The bigger the change the longer it will take for everything to adjust.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Is that the presumption when someone doesn't agree with you?
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A starting point would be for planning committees to work with the current legislation and not block development when it is compliant and their own officers recommend approval. Taking Councillors out of the process would be a massive step.
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And so it goes on...
Mad Nad didn't get her 'well deserved' peerage after all.
Cue theme tune for The Muppet Show.
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I'd argue that Osbourne did seem to manage to get a handle on the deficit.
I still stand by my point that it was an electorally popular painful policy, that was sold as something that would secure longer term economic health. For the purposes of that, it doesn't really matter that it wasn't successful in these targets!
I do wonder, given some of Starmer's latest sound bites, whether the UK will ever unwind the austerity mindset though!
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I disagree. See the big jump upwards in 2019.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
how could this possibly happen under a government of lying brexiters led by a corrupt lying traitor?
it's baffling
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What is striking about that article is that out of something like 5000 contracts, only about 150 were flagged, but these made up something like 10% of the total value.
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i thought it was about 30%, but the article hops around all over the place, it could have been better structured
still, johnson has moved on since then, obviously nothing to see here at all...
...on the plus side, dorries must still be livid about younger blonder owen's peerage
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...or was handy while carrie was preoccupied with his latest
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Isn't there one of those lovely English legal system superinjunctions preventing press and public discussion about just who the little blondie is?
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So Mel Stride won't be the next Tory leader, whoever he/she is.
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As a side issue, I'm already sick of journalists illustrating their hot takes with AI generated shite to save looking through the stock image catalogue.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Funny, it only seems like a couple of weeks ago that the streets were full of young and middle aged ultra right wingers rioting.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
It’s the same people, it’s just what 40 years of ageing does to you 😉
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Doesn’t help that the Canada Square tower block wasn’t completed until the 90s.
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