US Politics / Biden thread
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But Hillary.
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I'd normally not get too excited about polls, but if they were to show Harris with a steady marked lead, it would send Trump even more demented. Harris and her campaign team know how to bait him too. He hasn't got a Plan B, he can only be Trump.
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But, but, but he won! 66, 69, 73, 77, 82, 87, 94, 95% said so. 😉
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Ha, I'd not even seen this. All he will do is turn up the volume and the hate. There's no pivot.
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I wish we could be more confident Brian.
Harris needs to be on TV, and social media a lot more. A lot more. Half of the US don't even know what she sounds like. She needs free-form interview format - even on a hostile outlet, without Uncle Fester on the seat next to her cracking dad jokes.
Trump is not going to do anything other than rant to his base now, because his campaign knows he will be damaged if anyone actually asks him any questions.
It should be an open goal, but he Democrats really did fuck this opportunity up spectacularly for 3 1/2 years by having such a low profile VP.
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Oh indeed, I too wish we could be more confident.
BTW, blimey, saw this clip of Biden joshing with a MAGA-ist, and he's getting more doddery by the day. Actually struggling a bit with a pen... even if his wit is still intact, his delivery is becoming very laboured.
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I can understand why people are so angry he was running.
Time will tell, but I think he may have had a cognitive event, or a series of them, fairly recently. The decline is so sharp.
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Starmer is meeting with Biden today.
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being trump is all the maga millions want, he could piss on the flag and they'd lap it up
for the undecideds, even after the trainwreck of a debate, i think he's may still be winning with people who feel failed by the system
for them, the prospect of more of the same from harris isn't attractive
imo trump won't help them, he'll probably make things worse, but he's the one offering radical change
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I don't doubt that, the difference in his cognitive function over about a six month period was sizeable.
I said above thread, the biggest error was not making Bidem a one term President. They should have anointed Harris as his successor and gradually have had her take centre stage after mid terms. That would have positioned her as the President in waiting, and had it proved she was unpopular, left enough time to find another candidate.
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Does Biden know, or will he sit there smiling because this nice young man looks a bit like Hunter?
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Yes very possible - it doesn't seem a slow linear decline.
I give him some credit for joking around there though - that's how politics should be and it's a shame his PR people felt they had to spin it as a gesture of reconciliation or whatever word they used rather than it just being a bit of fun
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Democrats need to start messing around with the contrast and colour settings on video footage and images of Trump to highlight how old he looks.
Perhaps they are already.
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Yeah, I don't see too much being done.
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When I saw that clip yesterday, I was quite shocked, to the extent of thinking if he were a relative I'd be wondering if he should be thinking about care facilities.
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It's the motor control that is declining. I think it's affecting his speech and you can certainly see it in his limb movements.
What he actually says is fine, quite sharp actually. But the effort to get there seems high.
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He seems fine - you wouldn't maybe want him living alone, but he doesn't. Probably needs regular naps which isn't ideal in his job.
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Yeah, agreed. I think his wit/humour are going to outlive his body, on current trends.
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I think it is actually a real shame that the US electorate (as a whole) wouldn't yet be ready for a gay president, given the ability of Pete Buttigieg. He comes across as extremely sharp, genuine, and likeable, and doesn't get rattled.
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I see from that clip CNN are starting own version of HIGNFY. 🤔
Do they have a Hislop?
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Sadly IQ has not that much to do with US politics.
Sadly the US will not be ready for a gay president in our lifetimes.
But I think that a gay president will happen before an atheist president.
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Sadly all true, I think. I think the evangelical aspect of the US can explain a sizeable portion of why Trump is still a thing... nothing to do with his morals, but rather the blind faith in spite of all the irrefutable evidence to the contrary.
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Hmmm.
That last proposal is conflicting with religious views in the States. Will be interesting to find out, if I live long enough.
*That said, I'm not sure Trump is religious past lip service.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
My wife has a saying for some religious people. "Nice. But C***."
There's not historical correlation between ethical behaviour and religious adherence.
The sooner the US population cotton's on, the better.
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I'd also suggest there's a correlation between the US's evangelism and the gun obsession, and the inability to see that having more guns than people is utterly insane. It's the denial of all evidence which is key.
I still can't get over the statistic from a few years ago when the Guardian did a piece on fatal shootings *by police* that more people had been killed in US police shootings in the first 35 days of that year than had been killed in shootings by UK police in 35 years. It is one small but utterly shocking statistic in the lunacy of the US gun psyche... US politicians would no more dare to say they are atheist than they would say to reduce gun ownership... it's not even mentioned as an aspiration.
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Again another opposite to the UK , politicians being publicly religious are unlikely to be voted in.
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Though yUK politicians being publicly self obsessed narcissistic liars do get voted in...
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True
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It might be worth noting that all the odd elections to Senate & HoR in the last four years, the Dems have consistently (IIRC) outperformed their polling, and that was with Biden on the ticket.
One would hope that Trump fatigue is real and the enthusiasm seen in Harris/Walz rallies carries over into voting patterns. Against that are all the vote suppression tactics being played out in the courts and the Trumpist election officials in place in the crucial states.
Democrats must aim to get this by a margin big enough to thwart all these efforts. It's going to be tough, for sure.
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