Today's discussion about the news

The vast majority of the 'evolution' has been to speed up calculations and increase the number that can be calculated simultaneously. And that also necessitated greater miniaturisation There's not been a fundamental change in what it does.

It's also roughly the same amount of time between inventing a functioning railway locomotive and having a pretty comprehensive national rail network.

I read an interesting argument that LLMs may be as good as they are ever likely to be. Largely because training them on the LLM generated content which will start becoming a large portion of the web was likely to make them worse...

At least that one wouldn't change horses' existence too much, if they were the target of this idiocy.

Depending on the reports, they aren't allowed look at men they don't know, or laugh in public so that a man can hear, and some seem to suggest it's illegal to speak loudly in their own homes.

yes, there've already been some instances of modes effectively being poisoned because they ingest their own output or that of other models

another factor is that the original training data was taken without permission i.e stolen

authors, artists, and other rights holders, are rightly angry that their works are being used without payment or attribution to make lots of money for the thieves

some rights holders have struck licensing deals, others are taking legal action, personally i hope the thieves get sued into oblivion and are forced to delete the product of their thievery

either way, it's likely that getting training data will become harder and more costly

The opt out is to not use their cloud storage. It applies to the full Creative Suite, not just Photoshop.

I don't use it as I bailed out when they went subscription only, but doesn't that mean stop using it all together? Reports I've had is they trawl your HD library, not just what you upload.

Try using Adobe CS while disconnected from the internet.

Wife is a graphic designer, so dumping CS altogether is not really viable. The bigger issue raised was that a lot of the stuff stored on their cloud will be confidential and subject to commercial NDAs. I suspect this is just waiting for a test case to slap them down.

Have just re-checked and Adobe do state that they only use data stored on their cloud storage. You also can opt out of AI data collection by switching off the AI features (which are not particularly useful for what we use, so no loss there).

assuming adobe aren't lying, they did state that local content isn't being pinched and that they don't use your content to train their ai

as pretty much every application could be doing that anyway, not just adobe's, either you trust everything on the computer or you don't use it, anything needing to be really secure had better be air-gapped

as i get adobe cc and all the trimmings via work, after using various adobe stuff for 30+ years it's just easier to stick with, but once that stops i'm probably going to use affinity's stuff, simple one-off licence and it covers what i'm ever likely to need

You're going to find it increasingly difficult to find software without a subscription.

I have no problem with a subscription model. It's ideal for something that needs to be regularly updated. And sticking with old software inevitably leads to compatibility issues when you have to replace hardware.

I also have no problem with Adobe or anyone asking permission to use my online content or clearly stating that free use of a platform implies permission to use online content with some paid option to remove that. Businesses should be paid for the services they provide, either directly or in kind. I think it's the way Adobe have brought this in that is clumsy and poorly thought through.

Here's a perfect example of AI-generated rubbish - despite the millions of pictures of violinists and humans on the internet, it didn't manage to realise that humans have thumbs. "Am I being an idiot?" I certainly wouldn't trust a system that can't ask itself that question.

You all know it's going to happen in time and given how rapid technology has evolved in the last fifty years. It ain't going to take long. There's a reason why companies like Nvidia's, shares prices are shooting to the moon.

I'm not very happy with that moon, it's a bit pixelated, you get the idea though.