LEAVE the Conservative Party and save your country!
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He's be taping a tissue to his ear before you know it.😁
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I'm sure that how a lot of you would describe yourselves.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I think Carol Vorderman has been hacking into his BR account again.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
Of course you're going to say that. If you are convinced that the centrist approaches the only true path then in your mind the Tories only path to redemption is to become more centrist. As I mentioned upthread, who the hell wants more Lib Dems?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
As pointed out, the electorate also said that, which doesn't seem to have sunk in for you yet.
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I think it would be nice to dust off the term "wets" so that the Tory part can hate any moderate part of itself, rather than everything else.
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We just had an election and got loads more lib dem mps as a result so I think the answer is probably 'quite a lot of people'
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Oh, totally. Thing is most of the centrist dads used to vote Conservative. The Conservatives used to occupy that space and got two terms out of it, but it's been a while. They briefly went after the socially conservative lefties (Red Wall) and had some initial success with sales but f***ed the delivery. And you're right, maybe promising masses of public speaking while hiking taxes isn't very Conservative. Not sure there's much of a future as a bunch of culture warriors, though, and that seems to be what the "not Conservative enough" crowd have in mind.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Apparently 1 in 6 Tory voters in the last election will die before the next election.
Correlation not causation obviously (😏) but still. Big problem for them.
The perils of being a retiree only party.
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By definition won't they gain a fresh supply of recent retirees in that case?
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Meh, right wing populists appear to be able to win one off elections. I think it doesn't work for building anything much beyond that.
I guess there's room for a Conservative party which does cut taxes so long as they commit to some proper hard spending cuts, but they aren't going to be particularly electable.
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Well quite. Including one Mr. Chasey when he gets old enough, wise enough and wealthy enough.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Maybe I should screenshot that for posterity. If I could be bothered. I give you two full election terms, max.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
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I suspect people might have spotted that you already have some quite conservative perspectives, due to your new found enormous income.
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Yeah but once you've paid for a house that means you don't need to play a game of rush hour with drying racks and furniture or dodge drug dealers on your way home, past your own smashed up or vandalised car, you're deep into your 60s and thinking you need more pension money because the cost of the demographic and energy transition has been such that you've had to be taxed to oblivion to stop the country falling over, plus at that point your private healthcare premiums to be able to be seen within a year of requiring to be seen have shot up to eye-watering levels.
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Did you want some life coaching advice now, or just to blow off some steam?
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I predicted some years ago that you would vote tory eventually. That is now within two full election terms.
Your recent posts would indicate sooner.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Give it time. You're already showing encouraging signs.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The average switchover age from Labour to Conservative has been getting older though. Not much to indicate anyone still in their 30s will actually reach it on the current trajectory.
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Also a bit weird to suggest that having some idiot crash into your car and poor follow-up from the police would make you vote Conservative.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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That trajectory is not a constant though and will undoubtably change now labour are in charge.
The car was not one of my reference points. The country going down the swanny is. Once you want change from a labour government the option is....?
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
When were the glory days of the country?
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meh never much glory in the UK let’s be real but a period where you can expect to out earn your parents is definitely something that’s missing nowadays.
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1985, roughly.
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Is house size the only metric of out earning?
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