The Big 'Let's sell our cars and take buses/ebikes instead' thread (warning: probably very dull)
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Yet another slow hand clap for the genius of cancelling HS2.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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I can't work out who it is supposed to please. The money is already spent. The tunnels are already half built. No-one believes Network North is anything more than some words on a page.
Nobody gets anything out of it.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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I'd question "nobody". None of the public gets anything, that's for sure.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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That golf course got a new £7m clubhouse
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There is a switch that makes the exhaust less noisy, but its relative 😊 Only really used when exiting the village at 6.20am.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
To be fair to (most) modern cars, they are relatively quiet, especially in comparison with sodding motorbikes, which seem to get away with ridiculous noise levels: at weekends in France, they really do piss me off, spoiling the joy of riding on otherwise quiet roads.
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I think most modern bikes are reasonably quiet until the owner sticks on a stubby straight through decat exhaust and takes out the baffles.
I'm in the process of buying a new motorbike at the moment and have rejected quite a few because I can tell just by looking that the exhaust note will be somewhere between 'thunderstorm' and 'ragnorok'. I don't really understand the appeal.
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I've no idea what the regulations are in France, but if that is illegal it would be big fun if the gendarmes did weekend spot-checks on the hordes of noisy motorcyclists whizzing up Col de Rousset - I can only assume they get kicks out of making a lot of noise.
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In the UK the MOT test for noise is very subjective so you can get pretty much anything passed with a friendly MOT garage. The noisy exhausts are sold as 'race cans' and often stamped with 'not for road use' or something like that but nobody seems to care enough to check and I don't know anybody who has been fined or made to correct it.
I seem to remember some kind of noise measuring enforcement cameras being used in London, posh boroughs where super rich kids rev their supercars up and down the road I think.
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1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I hope they have better/more escalator technicians than we have in London - i don't think I've ever seen more than 2 out of 4 escaltors working at Waterloo (they mitigate it by hiring 4 people to stand at the top of the escalator getting in the way) and there were none working at city thameslink for months.
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It's not just Wales:
This study allows the quantification of the benefits in safety, environment, energy, traffic, livability, and health before and after the phased implementation of city-wide 30 km/h speed limits. Results from 40 different cities across Europe (including Paris, London, Brussels, and Helsinki) demonstrated that 30 km/h speed limits have led to significant reductions: 37% of road crash fatalities, 18% in emissions, 2.5dB in noise pollution and 7% in fuel consumption (on average), with very small variations of average traffic speed.
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The goal posts are moving now though with EV's, noise pollution will get much better. Progress could probably be made with quieter tyres. With adblue (Diesels) too, one is much more aware of the lack of fumes/smells when walking by a busy road.
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I'm not sure quieter tyres would be a good thing from a safety point of view. "Silent" cars would mean constant shoulder checking while cycling which isn't ideal. I suppose the next step is mandatory mirrors.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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True, my car has a built in safety feature in the exhaust, which alerts cyclist and peds to my approach 😊
Saw some survey recently that showed proportionately more people get hit by EVs probably for this very reason...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Regional differences apply. I can cycle for 10s of miles without seeing a car. I hear one coming from 100s of metres.
(I do love British mixing units 🤣)
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
What do you do when you hear a car? I'm not sure hearing a car that's about to hit you is particularly useful.
I guess if you're doing wheelies down the middle of the road, you'd know to stop.
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Bad laws get ignored
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So do good laws - do we just keep increasing the speed limit until nobody can break it?
50% breaking 30mph isn't great - is that too low as well?
I see they're still talking about the non existent 'blanket' 20mph limit in Wales as well
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Again, if there were more reasonable transport alternatives to driving, then presumably judges would be able to sentence drivers more harshly, as the defence of "depriving me of a way to get to work" wouldn't cut the mustard.
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Tough shit I say - you don't get 12 points in 3 years through a moment of inattention: cycle, get the bus, take an extra hour every day commuting or get a different job.
If i had a job where I absolutely had to drive and I was on 9 points, I'd be driving very cautiously.
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To be frank, it shouldn't matter because adults should be considered capable of consequential thinking. It should also, after a ban, be extremely difficult to regain a license, rather than just getting it back.
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Do you understand that you've added the word "only" here and run with it?
EDIT - there are also some people who can only hear. Not many, but possibly enough to worry about.
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When I hear an oncoming car (from 100m+) I can asses the road ahead and position myself accordingly. Sometimes this is pulling to the left, sometimes it is taking primary. I also know to shoulder check before manoeuvres.
FWIW That day is already here. Due to quiet cars I am already doing needless shoulder checks and am considering getting a mirror. Needless as in dozens of times over a 10 mile stretch with no cars.
On a side note I've already nearly been rear ended while walking in a pedestrian precinct by a quiet electric car. Disabled so entitled but with a level of self entitlement.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Folks, even with modern petrol and diesel cars, most of the noise you hear as they come up behind you is the tyres.
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Certainly at speed.
Unless its Stevo in his helpfully noisy car
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