TDF 2024:-Stage 4: Pinerolo – Valloire, 139.6km ***Spoilers***

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912

    Carapaz 4 mins!

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730

    Surprised how confident Vingegaard remains on descents.

    I would have thought that after that crash, he’d be a little cautious.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    Remco seems to have lost his nerve a bit, unsurprising I guess as he's already had a few nasty crashes in his career.

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692

    Jonas was on the hoods through the 10km

    🤐

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730

    Pogacar slowly extending his lead. Rodriguez slowly closing on Vingegaard.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21078281#Comment_21078281

    With the time bonus extras too.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited July 2

    Taking time on descents is usually a sign of top form fyi (3 mins before next meeting argh)

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730

    Vingegaard is going to lose his bonus seconds.

    He’s got both Roglic and Ayuso to contend with.

    Evenepoel makes it too.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    Carlton has been silenced (on my link at least).

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    Well Ayuso seems to be riding his own race!

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    The others seem o be leaning on Jonas to chase.

  • Kauto5
    Kauto5 Posts: 90

    18 seconds bonifications for Pogacar at the line. Not a bad day's work when you consider he likely had another gear to shift up to on the Galibier

  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,451

    35s on the line, Remco 2nd, Ayuso 3rd

  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912

    Jonas fading

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21078290#Comment_21078290

    Oh I don't think so, if he had he would have used it

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  • Kauto5
    Kauto5 Posts: 90

    UAE seriously strong - Ayuso and Almeida top 5 threats in their own right on this showing. Early days of course...

  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912

    Remco was good ...descent excepting

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    Remco and Ayuso hoover up the remaining bonus seconds, Jonas let a small gap go so maybe another second? Incredible margin in the end considering he only got clear of JV with around 400m to go to the top of the climb and didn't attack until nearly the final km.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Gap to vingers?

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    Surprised how much time Carapaz shipped.

  • Kauto5
    Kauto5 Posts: 90
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21078294#Comment_21078294

    I'm not so sure, I had the feeling he could and would have gone a few kms earlier if this was stage 14 rather than stage 4

  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,451

    Jorgenson, Bernal, A Yates, Thomas in the 2nd group @ 2:42

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,599

    I wasn't expecting that I have to admit. I thought Pog would wear Jonas down over the first couple of weeks then eventually make that lack of preparation count against him. Even when he attacked it didn't look like he was going to get a gap, at one point I thought Jonas might go back past.

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21078301#Comment_21078301

    I think he'd have to be feeling extremely sure of himself before going one on one with Jonas from distance. Today was about getting a gap and testing Vingegaard on the descent. And that's was an incredible descent he rode, not a huge flaw from JOnas.

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  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,798

    Pog goes 45 secs up on GC. Remco 5 back on Vinegar.

    2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner
  • epc06
    epc06 Posts: 216

    18 seconds of bonifications seem unfair

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21078303#Comment_21078303

    I think it was all about trying to bury Vingegaard as quickly as possible, while he's potentially undercooked and maybe shaky descending. Pretty sure he doesn't want to wait around and see if Jonas comes into form in the third week, as he usually does.

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228

    Cracking day that

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029

    GC

    1    T. POGACAR   UAE TEAM EMIRATES   -

    2    R. EVENEPOEL   SOUDAL QUICK-STEP   + 00h 00' 45''

    3    J. VINGEGAARD TEAM VISMA | LEASE A BIKE   + 00h 00' 50''

    4    J. AYUSO   UAE TEAM EMIRATES   + 00h 01' 10''

    5    P. ROGLIC   RED BULL - BORA - HANSGROHE   + 00h 01' 14''

    6    C. RODRIGUEZ   INEOS GRENADIERS   + 00h 01' 16''

    7    M. LANDA   SOUDAL QUICK-STEP   + 00h 01' 32''

    8    J. ALMEIDA   UAE TEAM EMIRATES   + 00h 01' 32''

    9    G. CICCONE   LIDL-TREK   + 00h 03' 20''

    10    E. BERNAL   INEOS GRENADIERS   + 00h 03' 21''

  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,451

    Pidders +11' - Ineos team order shaken out good and early

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