LEAVE the Conservative Party and save your country!
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Hmmm, born closer than WW1 than today 😃
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There's always been a nationalist insular wing and a more open free market wing, all the way back to the Corn Laws. They've only ever suppressed that split, never resolved it.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Yes but I never recall them being so vacuously jingoistic and self defeatingly xenophobic before. I also don't recall them having no coherent economic philosophy either, regardless of what I agree with personally.
That's why the country has a choice between no choice and Labour.
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Hmmm. Born closer to the Boer War than today. 😱🤬😢
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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Reminds me of this clip
- Genesis Croix de Fer
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The most sobering day (at least so far for me) is the one when you wake up closer to your Old Age Pension than you do you your 30s. (Age 53.5.) That hit me hard, but thankfully no-one else at Chateau W&G noticed. The kids are still dining out on the fact that at 50, you're closer to a telegram from the Monarch than you are to being born.
I have another somewhat sobering day coming up soon. My youngest will hit 20, at which point I've outgrown having teenage offspring.
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In the run up to the 2010 election, I don't recall Labour being anything like as hopeless as the current Conservatives. There seemed to be a general feeling that Labour had maybe come to the end of the road, but this current Conservatives regime feel like they've totally run out of talent and energy.
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My main recollection is that in the 2010 GE campaign, Labour, however sincere, thoughtful, "nice" etc. they were, were hamstrung by being led by the man who for years had proudly claimed to have abolished "boom and bust" whilst the last 18 months had been spent dealing with the fallout from the biggest bust ever. The impact of the GFC was severe and long-lasting both on the UK economy and Brown's credibility.
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He also had one really weird eye, and tended to shout at members of the public.
These Tories just want to get reelected and lack any integrity about the process. This is a slippery slope, as we are seeing in the US.
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Youngest hits 21 this summer. The one I'm dreading is becoming a grandparent - my wife is quite keen for my eldest to have a kid for some reason. My (slightly younger) cousin has been a grandfather for a good few years now and someone I was in school with has a grandchild that must be well into teenage years.
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Biggest surprise for me in 2010 was that the Tories didn't win with a landslide with the state of the economy, Iraq inquiry and bad results in local, by and European elections. Brown felt like the most unfortunate PM in history after sitting in the shadows of Blair while the country boomed he eventually took over just before the GFC and I think within a few weeks of him becoming PM the country was suffering from serious flooding which just seemed like an omen.
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I guess that as incumbents who had generally been popular / successful, there were plenty of undecideds who voted for more of the same, rather than taking a punt on a change. i.e. people weren't voting "Not Labour" in the way there was a strong "Not Tory" vote in 1997 (and likely this year too).
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Its not like the conservatives had been strongly opposing the Iraq war, or the financial regulations that helped lead to the financial crisis.
Plus by 2010, Brown had navigated at least some of the aftermath and I think it was generally agreed that he had done a vaguely acceptable job at it.
In comparison, whilst some aspects of the COVID response were good to very good, the conservatives managed to make it an utter PR disaster with partying and corruption.
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Weirdly I seem to surrounded by old people, dunno what happened to them coz I'm not old.....
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Who says boomers get it all ….
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I see Badenoch has resorted to "I'm not a culture warrior. You're a culture warrior!"
And also seems to not understand what history is. Or at least pretends to.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Rightly or wrongly, the rule in UK politics appears to be that if it happens on your watch, it's your fault, regardless of mitigating factors or what the Opposition might have done had they been in charge.
The ERM debacle is a strong precedent for this. Labour supported ERM membership since before the Tories did, and favoured a higher exchange rate. Had they been in power in September 1992, they would have presided over sterling being forced out of the ERM, as the underlying causes of the exchange rate movements at the time were out of the UK's control. Yet they were the Opposition at the time and milked the events for all they were worth re Tory economic incompetence, obviously not mentioning they supported the underlying policy.
And a secondary rule is that if the **** is bad enough, it doesn't matter what you do afterwards to salvage your reputation. The Tories' handling of the economy once out the the ERM was pretty good, but it did them no favours at the ballot box.
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Agreed. Other factors come into play other than the economy during a GE campaign. In 1997 the Tories were the party of sleaze and infighting, and I think people wanted a change.
Much like now really….
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Good to see Sunak taking his job super seriously.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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No way should he have expected any sort of ambush when he was going on *checks notes* Talk TV with *checks notes* Piers Morgan.
Fair enough :D
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I imagine Morgan was slightly disappointed that Sunak fell into the hole so easily.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Morgan had a £10k charity bet with Nasri when he moved to City. Morgan lost the bet, so Nasri asked for the money to be donated to the charity of his choice, but Morgan declared that he would only donate it to his charity.
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I see Kwarteng is quitting at the next election. Presumably he can't afford a mortgage now on an MPs salary, after his own budget lead to a significant salary reduction.
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PopCons.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🫣
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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He at least has the sense to realise when the game is up. Unlike his former boss.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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If the entire parliamentary party announced it was stepping down after the next election, would they actually do any worse?
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Please please can we all play Pop the Cons.
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Only the best. This is actually hilarious. Government by satire.
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