2024 Election thread
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So what are you going to do about that?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Perhaps I should start banging on about Barber and stagflation. About as relevant.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Amazing how Starner is simultaneously a millionaire lawyer who could never understand the working man, but also a hardcore leftie who will declare anyone with temerity to earn over 35k the enemy of the state.
Also how effective tax rate is a garbage metric unless it's being used to analyse policies from before colour television.*
*Slight exaggeration
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If you sell your home within 10 years of buying it through Right to Buy, you must first offer it to either:
your old landlord
another social landlord in the area
The property should be sold at the full market price agreed between you and the landlord.
If you cannot agree, a district valuer will say how much your home is worth and set the price. You will not have to pay for their valuation.
You can sell your home to anyone if the landlord does not agree to buy it within 8 weeks.
Paying back your discount
You’ll have to pay back some or all of the discount you got if you sell your Right to Buy home within 5 years of buying it.
You’ll have to pay back all of the discount if you sell within the first year. After that, the total amount you pay back reduces to:
80% of the discount in the second year
60% of the discount in the third year
40% of the discount in the fourth year
20% of the discount in the fifth year
The amount you pay back depends on the value of your home when you sell it.
Not quite the goldmine you suggest. But don't let facts get in the way.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Which bit do you disagree with?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Where did I say I disagreed? I questioned it's relevance. Healy's term as Chancellor was closer to 1930 than today.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Good you don't disagree. The impact of overtaxing is as relevant today as it was then.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Question for @Stevo_666 : what would you do at this point? Is there an angle you think the Tories haven't tried yet to turn this around?
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There are several months to go yet so probably not. The March budget is clearly one opportunity.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Fair enough. I don't think I'm out to score points (for a change), but even with a vaguely charitable hat on, it's hard to see what rabbits can be pulled out of the hat to change the polling - they seem to be veering towards pandering to a diminishing base, and don't seem to have anything left to try with the 'red wall' voters who seem to have pretty much left them. None of the 'reboot's have moved the dial, and any small fluctuations in polling seem just to be a bit of noise.
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I didn't take it as a trick question or a points scoring attempt tbh.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Didn't think you did, thanks. Actually genuinely interested if you had any thoughts, had you been charged with coming up with something to change the current trajectory. However optimistic you might be, I'm not sure that a few headline tax cuts and keeping fingers crossed that something will turn up will be anywhere near enough.
I'm not sure whether you believe me when I say I'd like to Tories to have some sense knocked into them, but it's true: good oppositions are vital to democracy.
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All governments have a finite life span - same went for the last Labour administration which lasted 13 years and 3 terms.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Not going to argue with that. I have a suspicion a lot of Tory MPs will not be sorry to have an excuse to pursue other interests after the election.
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🤨 Given the number of aged and infirm I'm resigned to taxes staying high whoever gets in. I am unimpressed by pretence to be a low tax party when that is clearly not the case.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Did you ever consider that raising tax might have been a necessary measure in response to the Covid epidemic and the Ukraine war? Both had significant economic impacts. They have been clear that they want to bring it down again and have started to do so.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Probably vote for a party that looks after working people, not retired people.
I think most people don't mind tax if they feel they're getting something out of it.
While we're on the topic, do we think any party is going to tackle @surrey_commuter's hobby horse around various tax traps?
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They've said a lot of things that they have then gone on to do the opposite. My taxes are up, not down.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
I'm glad the war in Ukraine is over and the debts from COVID have been repayed. I must have missed that news.
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That graph looks out of date.
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There may be other factors in play, but thanks for your valuable contribution.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I think the NI cut on 6 January is real enough.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Which party, specifically? Labour? That party run by Ed 'Postmaster Basher' Davey? 😊
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I'm happy to have a debate over whether Ed Davey is actually in the wrong here or not, but I suspect the attack lines have already landed, regardless of their validity.
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Those factors being incredibly poor polling and an election later this year.
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How about improving economic performance? (better than the likes of Germany)
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Would you say that if Tory minister was responsible for the Post Office at the time?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Who knows. I'd like to think so.
If you read the letters Davey wrote, he's saying the same stuff the judges were at the time. He was being lied to the same way the courts were.
Bear in mind, one of the problems with all of this was that the judges were seeing sense to make these convictions too, so there was insufficient evidence to demonstrate their innocence until much later.
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So are all the tax rises that more than cancel that out.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
I think he and many others were insuffiently curious about a supposed crime wave carried out by sub postmasters. And the criminality of the PO effectively extorting money from those sub postmasters. A resignation at this point would achieve nothing for those sub postmasters who are still alive, but sure, if it makes a few bandwagon jumpers happy, go for it.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0
