Hammerschmidt
ratherbeintobago
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dont believe so."Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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No - that's what I thought. Pity; it was an idea that sounded good (especially given the amount of chainsuck I get) but seems to have needed more development.0
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i was looking at getting one of these but am a bit worried of the facing procedure, anybody know of a decent place in essex that would be able to carry out the facing procedure. I really wish to pay out for the tools to do it myself.go flat out or fall out!0
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ratherbeintobago wrote:No - that's what I thought. Pity; it was an idea that sounded good (especially given the amount of chainsuck I get) but seems to have needed more development.
You're much better off just finding out what's causing it, and fixing it.0 -
You're much better off just finding out what's causing it, and fixing it.
Open to suggestions on that one. Vile riding conditions I can do little about; chain and rings not excessively worn, nor brand new (which I gather is also a cause).
Considering giving 2x9 a go as theoretically less front shifting would mean less opportunity for chainsuck, but equally some people say running a double at the front leads to more front shifting.it is quite possibly the most ludicrously expensive "cure" for it.
Maybe, but a lighter, less draggy, more trail orientated v2 epicyclic front would maybe have been the end of front mechs. Don't have much trouble with shifting at the back; also not sure XX1 makes any sense from a weight distribution POV.
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Whoa there! Hammerschmidt was never lighter!
Also, what you're experiencing is not chainsuck.0 -
Hammerschmidt - lighter? The full combo weighs 1.54KgCurrently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
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I didn't actually say a Hammerschmidt was lighter. However, with development there's no reason to believe a trail orientated v2 wouldn't have been lighter.
As I understand it, chainsuck can occur when in one ring, or occurs when you shift. I get the second kind (chain jammed up between the rings & the chainstay).
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ploppy wrote:i was looking at getting one of these but am a bit worried of the facing procedure, anybody know of a decent place in essex that would be able to carry out the facing procedure. I really wish to pay out for the tools to do it myself."Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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Chainsuck can occur when the chain and ring are worn, even on a single ring.Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
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The Beginner wrote:Hammerschmidt - lighter? The full combo weighs 1.54Kg
compared with like for like at launch it was about the same.
viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=12729237"Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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Indeed Nick, but about the same is not lighter....
On my bike (yeah I'm budget conscious) I run 22/36 double (steel rings and Truvativ bolts off a powerspline chainset) on Deore HT2 cranks and BB with a Deore mech, old style X7 shifter and cheap cables, total weight for comparison is 1,243g. For referance that whole lost cost me less than £35 (pre-loved).Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0 -
The Beginner wrote:Chainsuck can occur when the chain and ring are worn, even on a single ring.
Yes, again I don't dispute that, but the problem I get is when shifting.
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Sounds like setup problems, not chainsuck.I don't do smileys.
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I fail to see the connection.I don't do smileys.
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Your problem and your solution.I don't do smileys.
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cooldad wrote:Your problem and your solution.
So, you're saying that chainsuck doesn't occur on shifting front rings? :roll:0 -
Millions of people shift gears every day without chainsuck and /or a Hammerschmidt.
But it's one way I guess.I don't do smileys.
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cooldad wrote:Millions of people shift gears every day without chainsuck and /or a Hammerschmidt.
But it's one way I guess.
Thank you so much for taking the time to give me that useful input.0 -
My pleasure. Take good care of it.I don't do smileys.
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ratherbeintobago wrote:cooldad wrote:Millions of people shift gears every day without chainsuck and /or a Hammerschmidt.
But it's one way I guess.
Thank you so much for taking the time to give me that useful input.0 -
As it's a rarity it's worth repeating, Cooldad makes a very valid point, millions of shifts are made every year without chainsuck, suggesting somewhat that if you have chainsuck on shifting it's not exactly unfixable and for a lot less money than adding an extra 300g plus to your bike at significant expence.Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
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You don't have a valid point in you.I don't do smileys.
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