2024 Classics thread - Not a spoiler thread

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  • arnuf
    arnuf Posts: 98

    Somewhere in UCI's regulations there is probably a rule that can force him to enter.

  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,808

    Has their been an update about Mads Pedersen?

    He got back on his bike and rode back to the team bus, but at the very least he'll have road rash etc

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,533

    Where are you getting that from? Danish press seems to think he's still aiming to ride Flanders, and some Dutch language press seems to confirm it

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,584

    I swear I read it, but then I was bleary eyed awake at 4:30am with a griping baby when I read it, so perhaps I dreamed it.

  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,808

    If he misses RVV who would be 2nd favourite?

    I refuse to believe Jorgensen has a strong chance

  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,454
    edited March 28

    Bettiol & Mohoric probably. Possibly Trentin? Also van Baarle, Wellens, Girmay?

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,533

    Probably Philipsen.... Søren Kragh Andersen for third favourite....

    I've completely written off Quickstep, though it wasn't long ago that two of their team would be among the pre race favourites.

    Visma are a bit bare bones now, don't think Jorgensen has enough to threaten

    Girmay is a bit banged up but nothing broken, Bettiol may have pulled a muscle.

    Küng is Küng, I can't see him getting away solo, or winning from a bunch bigger than one.

    I'm not sure who Ineos are sending, think Narvaez and Rowe are both out, think it's a big ask for Sheffield


    Surprise Fred Wright win anyone?

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,533

    Oooh, Mathews in with a shout tbh. In decent shape, has a previous top ten, got a bit of extra motivation from MSR

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,751

    Kung, but he will never drop everybody, and will never win a sprint.

    van Baarle has 5 top ten finishes there, so pretty decent shout of top 2.

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,533
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,533

    Wellens is 32 and hasn't cracked the top 20 at RVV, doubt he's about to radically change that on Sunday

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,751

    missed that - yes, he might not even start if he hasn't recovered. It's going to a matter of when mvdp decides to go really, isn't it?

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,133

    Danny van Poppel and Milan are my outside bets or Philipsen as the only way I can see MvdP not winning is if he has an issue in which case Philipsen will be the back up. Why isn’t Pidcock riding?

  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,808

    Basically yeah

    Out of interest I checked the odds and Jorgensen is 2nd favourite now

    I've managed to get Fred Wright at 100/1 though and William Hill are paying each way odds for the top 4, rather than the podium as usual

    There's been an update from Lidl that Mads will ride but is being "monitored by the team"

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,533

    Pidcock is riding Itzulia Basque then the Ardennes I think, fits better with his Tour GC prep, for whatever that's worth

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,790

    mohoric or wellens .behind MvdP

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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,808

    Having just watched 2019 RVV back I think Bettiol might have a chance.

    He's been bang in form this season (apart from E3 where he bombed)

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,584

    He's been dropping some monster attacks, but i can't see MvdP letting him go.

  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,808

    I should clarify, has a chance of coming 2nd behind MVDP.

    It's Mathieu's to lose, but there's a more interesting race for 2nd place

  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,808

    Just seen the weather forecast

    There's rain in the air for Sunday, but it may come too late to impact the mens race

  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,605
    edited March 28
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,192

    A wee bit retro but: just catched up with the women's' Dwars door Vlaanderen. Good race

  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,454

    One would think rain would be good for MvdP. His handling and cornering in the wet Roubaix a few years ago was phenomenal, but he didn't win said Roubaix and he notably blew up in the Yorkshire World's in rain as well.

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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,808

    He won E3 in a storm the other week. I think his bike handling skills are slightly irrelevant when he's minutes clear of the rest of the field ;)

  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,454

    I'm not sure races necessarily play out that way when there is one overwhelming favorite. Then again his win rate is rather high when he is.

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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,808

    Flanders 2011 springs to mind. Cancellara was overwhelming favourite and everyone sat on his wheel. 2012 as well, Pozzatto just followed Boonen around all day.

    The only thing with this course is that when MVDP decides to drop it (maybe on the Taaienberg), no one will be anywhere near catching him

  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,454

    Think the danger for him is going to early and then being caught towards the end and being spent and not able to sprint any more.

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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,445

    I can see a surprise winner, where teams send their second best rider up the road to anticipate Van Der Poel's move, and leave responsibility for keeping them in check to Alpecin-Decuenick, and the gap gets too big for him to close once he launches.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,584

    Do you not think he is strong enough to create a very early selection and just take it to the finish?