PTP 2024
Welcome to the 20th Annual PTP Competition
New forum layout, same old PTP!
It's February already, the muddy fields are behind us, and Opening Weekend is just 3 weeks away.
Calendar changes for 2024: Paris-Tours removed as it has moved to June and clashes with the Tour de Suisse. Olympic RR + ITT races added.
How to Play
Playing along with PTP is extremely simple - you don't have to sign up or join anything other than the Bikeradar forums. If you're already a member here, that means you're already eligible to play.
A few days before each of the chosen races, a PTP thread will be started in the Pro Race forum. That thread will contain a selection of useful links - start lists, race maps, past winners and so on. All you have to do is consider who you think is likely to win and post their name in that thread. It's that simple. If the race in question is a stage-race, you also get to predict the daily stage winners.
Post your pick in the relevant PTP thread before the cut off. If you change your mind then please post as a new post rather than editing your old post.
As you play, your scores will be added up and the overall season rankings will be updated in this thread. The scorer's will do their best to ensure scores are accounted for accurately, but ultimate responsibility lies with each player to make sure their points are correct.
PTP Races
Date | Race | Scorer
24/02 | Omloop Het Nieuswsblad | red.rider
25/02 | Kuurne Brussels Kuurne | red.rider
02/03 | Strade Bianche | red.rider
03-10/03 | Paris Nice | twotoebenny
04-10/03 | Tirreno-Adriatico | red.rider
16/03 | Milan San Remo | dish_dash
22/03 | E3 Saxo Classic | gregster04
24/03 | Gent-Wevelgem in Flanders Fields | gregster04
31/03 | Ronde van Vlaanderen | RichN95
03/04 | Scheldeprijs | twotoebenny
07/04 | Paris Roubaix | ducknumber1
14/04 | Amstel Gold Race | red.rider
17/04 | La Flèche Wallone | JimD666
21/04 | Liege Bastogne Liege | JimD666
23-28/04 | Tour de Romandie | gregster04
04-26/05 | Giro d'Italia | red.rider
02-09/06 | Critérium du Dauphiné | dish_dash
09-16/06 | Tour de Suisse | twotoebenny
29/06-21/07 | Tour de France | RichN95
27/07-04/08 | Olympic Games ME + WE ITT + RR | red.rider
10/08 | Donostia San Sebastian Klasikoa | dish_dash
17/08-08/09 | Vuelta a Espana | ducknumber1
22-29/09 | World Championships (RR + TT, Men + Women) | red.rider
05/10 | Giro dell'Emilia | JimD666
12/10 | Il Lombardia | red.rider
PTP Top 10 from 2022
m.r.m. 1490
dish_dash 1410
rozzer32 1402
takethehighroad 1397
TheBigBean 1388
Dorset_Boy 1368
archieboy 1335
twotoebenny 1324
orraloon 1294
gregster04 1288
Past PTP Winners
2023: m.r.m.
2022: m.r.m.
2021: twotoebenny
2020: rozzer32
2019: M.R.M.
2018: rozzer32
2017: rozzer32
2016: ducknumber1
2015: Stanislav
2014: Art Vandelay
2013: archieboy (I think)
2012: Art Vandelay
2011: rozzer32
2010: Kléber
2009: FJS
2008: Richrd2205
2007: andyp
2006: mangama
2005: ?unknown?
Scoring
TdF = Tour de France; G/V = Giro/Vuelta; Reg = Regular season
GC and one-day winners:
Pos | TdF | G/V | Reg
1 | 100 | 85 | 50
2 | 75 | 65 | 40
3 | 60 | 50 | 35
4 | 55 | 45 | 30
5 | 50 | 40 | 25
6 | 45 | 35 | 20
7 | 40 | 30 | 15
8 | 35 | 26 | 10
9 | 30 | 22 | 5
10 | 25 | 19 | 2
11 | 20 | 16 |
12 | 15 | 13 |
13 | 12 | 11 |
14 | 10 | 9 |
15 | 8 | 7 |
16 | 6 | 5 |
17 | 5 | 4 |
18 | 4 | 3 |
19 | 3 | 2 |
20 | 2 | 1 |
Stage winners:
Pos | TdF | G/V | Reg
1 | 12 | 10 | 6
2 | 10 | 8 | 5
3 | 8 | 6 | 4
4 | 7 | 5 | 3
5 | 6 | 4 | 2
6 | 5 | 3 | 1
7 | 4 | 2 |
8 | 3 | 1 |
9 | 2 |
10 | 1 |
These scores are already included in the following Google Sheets templates (use of templates not mandatory): One day races, Stage races
Footnotes
Doping
Points are finalised once the race organisations publishes their results. No adjustments will be made if it later emerges that a rider has failed a drugs test or if a rider has wins retrospectively removed from their palmares.
Prediction Cut-off
Always the contentious one! The cut off is 12pm (noon) UK on the day of the race. This is strict so predictions at 12.01 won't be counted (exceptions made for split-stages, evening prologues etc. as described in each race's thread). No GC selections will be accepted once a stage-race has begun.
Comments
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@Scorers I just copied last years program. If something doesn’t work, or if anyone else wants to handle some races, then just let me know here.
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Thanks for doing the organising. Happy to help as needed.
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Works fine for me but can swap races if needed too
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Cheers for putting this on
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm1 -
First two races being neutralised due to forum issues?
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Seems reasonable...only just could log in now ....what a pain I was going to choose both races correctly as well
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm1 -
With the forum down from Friday to Sunday, most were locked out from PTP. It’s only fair that we neutralise Omloop and KBK and try to start again this coming weekend.
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Why should those who don't leave it to the last minute be penalised?
Not our fault the others got stuck behind a crash on the motorway and missed their flights! 😉
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Rules explicitly say we can pick up to 12:00. That opportunity was taken away by technical issues, so it’s not the players’ fault and the PTP is nullified.
We shouldn’t have to plan for these technical issues, especially when they occur 24h (or48h) before the deadline.
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Aye, real shame I was prevented from submitting my picks of Tiesj Benoot and Jasper Philipsen 😉
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Glad to see it wasnt only me couldnt get on here, this is my first post on this new forum thingy, hope it works.
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I was trying to submit my picks on Friday evening and multiple times over the weekend - it was a shame not to have PTP riding on the races. Hopefully it was a one-off problem.
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After 4 rounds, @gregster04 has a narrow lead over the rest of the field.
Top 3:
gregster04. 225
carbonclem 222
ocdupalais. 218
Full scores here
Next up, we go north:
22/03 | E3 Saxo Classic | gregster04
24/03 | Gent-Wevelgem in Flanders Fields | gregster04
31/03 | Ronde van Vlaanderen | RichN95
03/04 | Scheldeprijs | twotoebenny
07/04 | Paris Roubaix | ducknumber1
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The cobbles are over, now we head to the Ardennes classics and the build up to the Giro with a trip to Romandie.
14/04 | Amstel Gold Race | red.rider
17/04 | La Flèche Wallone | JimD666
21/04 | Liege Bastogne Liege | JimD666
23-28/04 | Tour de Romandie | gregster04
04-26/05 | Giro d'Italia | red.rider
Just waiting for @gregster04 to allow access to the E3 and GW scoresheets before I update the leaderboard.
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@gregster04 is still top of the pile after the Northern Classics. Here's your top 10:
gregster04 525
carbonclem 512
exiger1272 482
m.r.m. 478
twotoebenny 472
singleton 468
orraloon 443
rozzer32 440
TheBigBean 435
archieboy 428
One day racing is finished until the Olympic Games. But stage racing is here for the next 3 months:
23-28/04 | Tour de Romandie | gregster04
04-26/05 | Giro d'Italia | red.rider
02-09/06 | Critérium du Dauphiné | dish_dash
09-16/06 | Tour de Suisse | twotoebenny
29/06-21/07 | Tour de France | RichN95
Reminder to get your picks in before the prologue kicks off in Romandie tomorrow!
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@exiger1272 leads the pack as PTP heads to the Tour de France. It's still very close at the top and all still to play for.
Your top-10:
- exiger1272 905
- carbonclem 897
- m.r.m. 872
- rozzer32 869
- twotoebenny 842
- orraloon 839
- gregster04 822
- TheBigBean 811
- red.rider 810
- archieboy 792
Remaining races and scorers:
29/06-21/07 | Tour de France | RichN95.
27/07-04/08 | Olympic Games ME + WE ITT + RR | red.rider
10/08 | Donostia San Sebastian Klasikoa | dish_dash
17/08-08/09 | Vuelta a Espana | ducknumber1
22-29/09 | World Championships (RR + TT, Men + Women) | red.rider
05/10 | Giro dell'Emilia | JimD666
12/10 | Il Lombardia | red.rider
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I'm going to be away for the Olympic TT so please can I pick Josh Tarling and Chloe Dygert?
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Done
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exiger1272 still leads the overall and a looks like it's just a two horse race. But there's still 300 points to play for, starting with the World Championships in 2 weeks, followed by the closing of the season in Emilia and Lombardy.
- exiger1272 1460
- m.r.m. 1448
- rozzer32 1388
- TheBigBean 1356
- orraloon 1338
- takethehighroad 1325
- carbonclem 1318
- archieboy 1299
- dish_dash 1284
- red.rider 1255
Scoresheet here.
Anonymous picks direct to my inbox will be accepted if you want to avoid a trackstand at the top.
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And so, another year of PTP is done.
Congratulations to @exiger1272 , who held their nerve and the lead since June but was pushed hard by a solid pack of chasers waiting for any capitulation or mistake. @m.r.m. and @TheBigBean round out the 2024 podium.
- exiger1272 1735
- m.r.m. 1673
- TheBigBean 1631
- rozzer32 1623
- archieboy 1599
- takethehighroad 1575
- orraloon 1548
- red.rider 1530
- dish_dash 1494
- twotoebenny 1478
- mididoctors 1458
- Dorset_Boy 1428
- carbonclem 1418
- gregster04 1406
- ocdupalais 1386
- Pross 800
- singleton 723
- RichN95. 706
- JimD666 620
- gsk82 331
- Mad_Malx 101
Final workings our here
Thanks all for joining in, and see you again in February 2025!
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Thanks for scoring!
Congrats exiger1272!!
PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20231 -
Thanks Red Rider and everyone else for your hard work. Congrats to exiger1272. Also to The Big Bean for taking the biggest win over me yet (I think)...
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I'd like to thank..... Pogacar for most of my points! (and all the scorers).
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Chuffed to bits thanks to all the scorers will treat myself to a post ride pint tonight
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Thanks everyone for playing and hosting
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm1 -
Well done
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
