2024 Election thread
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Some good data scientist potential for the government.
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You get the team in place first. I know we’ve had 7 years of a Government that puts together policy on the fly and uses the media to judge its popularity then u-turns when it goes down like a lead balloon or brings in ridiculous gimmicks like the Rwanda scheme but that’s not how things are normally done for a good reason.
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The problem with free minutes on call plans is people can use them making calls like that whereas in the past it would have cost them money.
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Is it too soon to say or no point moaning as it’s done now?
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I'd be interested to see how this compares to the previous cabinet.
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Thank god for the civil service.
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More PPE and classics I'd imagine.
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I'd say it's too soon to say. Give them until the first proper full working day, Monday.
Of course by Monday there will be no point in moaning as it's done. May as well make the most of it.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Still haven't got your sense of humour implant I see...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Putting the team in place isn't the same as making decisions on issues. And I think you know that.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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must be pleased the govt is putting people with experience of their briefs into ministerial positions and not just people who have no experience other than making noise in newspapers?
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But if the strategy is wrong...
I await the first leftieballsups.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I just had a flash back to Boris Johnson handing over to Matt Hancock in press conferences, with Chris Whitty in the background chewing his arm off and it's already an improvement.
Fwiw RC, I see history and politics as in some ways more helpful than law - or at least a balance. Too many lawyers seem to lead to imbalance of decision making towards what can be technically justified. I don't know if there are any scientists or engineers in the cabinet - but suspect few or none, because the personality types for those subjects self-select out of politics I would say. Scientists tend towards introversion.
In some ways governing is more about not being a dick, not being a liar and listening to advice than having specific expertise to generate the advice. That is what the civil service is for and they have started well in that regard.
Stark contrast to resignations of top civil servants because they aren't being listened to and are being treated like shit by politicians with personality disorders.
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I know I’m just pulling your pisser.
Horses for courses. I wouldn’t put an actuary as head of the home office as much as I wouldn’t put in a fine arts specialist in as head of science and technology
Politics is really getting people to rally around a vision and putting the right people in place to execute said vision.
If you can all do that, then you’re just voting on what the vision is.
I would suggest that in aggregate people who choose humanities subjects are more interested in people and ideas than other grads.
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I'm sure David Lammy's record of being measured and diplomatic will serve him well as foreign secretary
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Serious person with an understanding of the issues. Friends in the civil service tell me he's effectively already doing the job for the last 6 mths meeting everyone he'll need to be dealing with.
Starmer has already been in contact with the Stormont Executive and the Irish Taoiseach is invited to London mid July.
So Labour seem to be, at a minimum, attempting to rebuild relationships
In a historical quirk, Benn will be the first SOSNI in history not to have to answer a question from an Ian Paisley.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
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I was struck by hearing regional accents from senior politicians. Has to be at least a bit more optimism that they will have heard of places like Scotland and The North.
Since Starmer has ruled out the customs union, free movement and so on, I've no idea how they fix the Brexit issues with NI though. What are your thoughts?
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He's also been welcomed across the board.
He brings remain credentials and an understanding of the impact of Brexit on NI, but Unionists like what he's said about the unnecessary 'pettifogging' in the implementation of the Irish Sea Border
He has some quick decisions to make on the funding for Casement Park, building must start immediately if Belfast is to host the Euros
He needs to decide what he's doing with the Legacy Act...I don't think he'll repeal it but tinker instead hoping to get that boxed off.
He needs to up the funding for NI but get it tied to reform of health provision. The NHS in NI is both a money pit and effectively in collapse. On every metric the chart axis of bad things needs extended to include NI
The other interesting thing is reform at Stormont. Can he renegotiate the GFA to remove the provisions which allow a single party to collapse government and hold the entire thing to ransom
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Lammy did the groundwork to get Starmer to the D day event meeting wth Zelensky. Think he'll be OK.
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Not sure Le Pen or Meloni or Wilders and their colleagues will be a fan of a black guy but it’s hardly Lammy’s fault.
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Vallance is Science Minister.
I think this covers most of the previous cabinet.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Part of the anti-growth coalition0
