Vuelta build up
Ineos: Arensman, Bernal, Castro, De Plus, Fraile, Ganna, Heiduk, Thomas
No space for Rowe, who was talking as though he was going on their pod the other week.
No space for Rowe, who was talking as though he was going on their pod the other week.
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I don't see that as a GC team.0
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Thomas and Arensmen as co-leaders, Fraile / DePlus / Castro mountain domestiques / Ganna to control the bunch, Heiduk / Bernal no idea. Not a bad GC team.0
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It's 6 out of 8 of the Giro team0
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Have you not got your glasses on or something?gethinceri said:I don't see that as a GC team.
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I'd say that's a fairly decent GC team. Be good to see what Arensman can do if he gets the chance.
Surprised at Rowe, he was definitely talking as if he was going. Out of contract this year as well.1 -
I'd assumed Heiduk was on his way out of Ineos, after not really setting the world alight during his time there, but if he's been selected to ride the Vuelta ahead of Rowe then they must have plans for him.1
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Amazed they found 8 riders left to make up the team2
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Who would be road captain out of that team?0
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I suppose all eyes will be on the Quickstep team to see if any miraculously decide to work for INEOS (or vice versa I suppose).1
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I just expect to better lineups from other teams.andyp said:
Have you not got your glasses on or something?gethinceri said:I don't see that as a GC team.
It's only an opinion and it's only the internet.0 -
True but you can only pee with what you've got.gethinceri said:
I just expect to better lineups from other teams.andyp said:
Have you not got your glasses on or something?gethinceri said:I don't see that as a GC team.
It's only an opinion and it's only the internet.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Just realised how few of the riders I would recognise without a race number on their back.1
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I can't help but think that the role of "road captain" is somewhat overstated. Who was Vingegaard's or Pogacar's road captain at the Tour? Or Roglic's at the Giro?1
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I don't think it is, it's a crucial role. Every team has someone, usually one of the experienced riders, who calls the shots on the road, decides when to work or not, talks and negotiates with other teams, and generally provides direction to the team in the moment. They obviously have a DS in the car, but quite often the DS doesn't see what's happening in the bunch and relies on someone to ensure the team's strategy is implemented.r0bh said:I can't help but think that the role of "road captain" is somewhat overstated. Who was Vingegaard's or Pogacar's road captain at the Tour? Or Roglic's at the Giro?
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Arensmen with g in support ?gethinceri said:I don't see that as a GC team.
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The other way round all things being equal.mididoctors said:
Arensmen with g in support ?gethinceri said:I don't see that as a GC team.
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Let the road decideDeadCalm said:
The other way round all things being equal.mididoctors said:
Arensmen with g in support ?gethinceri said:I don't see that as a GC team.
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The bookie's odds:
5/4 Vingegaard
3/1 Roglic
4/1 Evenepoel
9/2 Ayuso
14/1 Thomas
17/1 Mas
25/1 Almeida
40/1 Carapaz
50/1 Vlasov, Vine
70/1 Bilbao
75/1 Gaudu, Arensman, L.Martinez
I've gone for a tenner on Roglic and £2.50 each way on Arensman (they don't let you bet big on cycling)Twitter: @RichN950 -
Any more and you’ll be bigger than the market.RichN95. said:The bookie's odds:
5/4 Vingegaard
3/1 Roglic
4/1 Evenepoel
9/2 Ayuso
14/1 Thomas
17/1 Mas
25/1 Almeida
40/1 Carapaz
50/1 Vlasov, Vine
70/1 Bilbao
75/1 Gaudu, Arensman, L.Martinez
I've gone for a tenner on Roglic and £2.50 each way on Arensman (they don't let you bet big on cycling)
Why don’t you make your own odds on bet fair and make the market yourself? You probably know more than most professional bookies at this point.0 -
You should look at my PTP performance.rick_chasey said:
Any more and you’ll be bigger than the market.
Why don’t you make your own odds on bet fair and make the market yourself? You probably know more than most professional bookies at this point.
I know that bookies work on the basic building blocks that insurance does, and I'm not taking on that much data.
I do enough data analysis at work to know that you should just keep it light and cheap.Twitter: @RichN951 -
🤣🤣🤣 So true for everyone!RichN95. said:
You should look at my PTP performance.rick_chasey said:
Any more and you’ll be bigger than the market.
Why don’t you make your own odds on bet fair and make the market yourself? You probably know more than most professional bookies at this point.
I know that bookies work on the basic building blocks that insurance does, and I'm not taking on that much data.
I do enough data analysis at work to know that you should just keep it light and cheap.
Gambling is a mugs game unless done on a fun basis expecting to lose.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
I would be very surprised if they are considering more data then you are when it comes to cycling.RichN95. said:
You should look at my PTP performance.rick_chasey said:
Any more and you’ll be bigger than the market.
Why don’t you make your own odds on bet fair and make the market yourself? You probably know more than most professional bookies at this point.
I know that bookies work on the basic building blocks that insurance does, and I'm not taking on that much data.
I do enough data analysis at work to know that you should just keep it light and cheap.
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Carapaz apparently not riding.0
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Strong whiff of everyone else thinking "we should just give up and go home" about this team
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Should we read anything into Vingegaard being listed above Roglic?0
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If they don’t win this there is something seriously wrong!0
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At what point does everyone become ABJ?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0
