“Yona Tan Mee Lan”
Only to see the results flash up on the screen & realise it was Jonathan Milan!🙄
Is the extravagant pronounciation really necessary?
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Rob Hatch?
Final straw for me was when he put several Hs at the start of GVA's name not so long ago.
Hhhhhreg Van Ay-vermate
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If that is how he/ Italians pronounce his name, then yes. He's not English...
If you're familiar with the Scottish football commentator, Derek Rae, then he's big on pronouncing names as they are meant. Too many anglo commentators are pretty ignorant about names/ places.
On the old Ch4 Football Italia, James Richardson would pronounce Milan, as Mee-lan.All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."2 -
Being of Polish stock, it's a bugbear of mine that pretty much every GCN commentator gets Kasia Niewiadoma's name wrong. Kasha. It's pronounced Kasha ffs, not Kaseea.0
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Interestingly I google searched if indeed the Italians pronounced it “Yona Tan” and no, they don’t. They say “Jonathan” very similarly to how we say it.andyrac said:If that is how he/ Italians pronounce his name, then yes. He's not English...
If you're familiar with the Scottish football commentator, Derek Rae, then he's big on pronouncing names as they are meant. Too many anglo commentators are pretty ignorant about names/ places.
On the old Ch4 Football Italia, James Richardson would pronounce Milan, as Mee-lan.
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Here's some help with some of the really tricky ones
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Little englanders unite.3
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Here in Denmark we have very, very low expectations of commentators pronouncing Danish names (even though Danish coms aren't especially good at foreign names), but the worst is Cecilie. It just isn't anywhere near "Sessily". It's Cecilie, just like in the song "you're breaking my heart". That should make it ridiculously simple for them, but no.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0
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Surely Jose Been takes this to another level. Whether Hatch's pronunciation is correct or not at least his comprise primarily of sounds that exist in the English language. Once you know Yona Tan Me Lan is Jonathan Milan you are good to go. Jose seems to pronounce every name using those sounds that we don't have in English - it may be correct for a native Flemish/Dutch speaker but I really find it difficult to follow who she is referring to as every rider is just a collection of incomprehensible noises arranged in different order.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]2
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Well this was worth a whole new thread of it’s own.2
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I have an Italian/English friend that I see most times we go to Italy, his name is Jonathan. The Italians get the J right, but the th is just a t so he tends to be referred to as Jonatan, but more usually abbreviated so it's not an issue.themxperience said:
Interestingly I google searched if indeed the Italians pronounced it “Yona Tan” and no, they don’t. They say “Jonathan” very similarly to how we say it.andyrac said:If that is how he/ Italians pronounce his name, then yes. He's not English...
If you're familiar with the Scottish football commentator, Derek Rae, then he's big on pronouncing names as they are meant. Too many anglo commentators are pretty ignorant about names/ places.
On the old Ch4 Football Italia, James Richardson would pronounce Milan, as Mee-lan.0 -
When I used to live in France, I had two english friends, Harry and Ed.
My italian friends were quite literally incapable of calling them anything other than Arry and Head.2 -
Said it before but on topic, in Montreal a Honda Accord becomes a Onda H'accord.shirley_basso said:When I used to live in France, I had two english friends, Harry and Ed.
My italian friends were quite literally incapable of calling them anything other than Arry and Head.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
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Pronouncing as Jonathan today
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I don’t mind the pronunciation thing thing, but saying today that TGH rode the ‘time trial of his career’ when he literally won the actual Giro by a TT in 2020 makes it a bit of a stretch.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0
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His TT today was better. He was 13th, 58” down on the stage in 2020. He ‘just’ needed to beat Hindley.carbonclem said:I don’t mind the pronunciation thing thing, but saying today that TGH rode the ‘time trial of his career’ when he literally won the actual Giro by a TT in 2020 makes it a bit of a stretch.
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I think that's by far the best TT result TGH has had in a major stage race. By some margin.3
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Soft giro though wasn’t it?carbonclem said:I don’t mind the pronunciation thing thing, but saying today that TGH rode the ‘time trial of his career’ when he literally won the actual Giro by a TT in 2020 makes it a bit of a stretch.
Not his fault, he can only beat the riders who start with him.0 -
This Giro may play out yet in his favour (I hope so) but figures schmigures … that Giro winning one was his career highlight thus far.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0
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I would have thought winning a Giro might be a lot of riders career highlight.carbonclem said:This Giro may play out yet in his favour (I hope so) but figures schmigures … that Giro winning one was his career highlight thus far.
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The Giro win was but not necessarily the TT.carbonclem said:This Giro may play out yet in his favour (I hope so) but figures schmigures … that Giro winning one was his career highlight thus far.
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Its a fair point. I guess it depends how you view it. Best performance data wise, or as an actual means to an end.Pross said:
The Giro win was but not necessarily the TT.carbonclem said:This Giro may play out yet in his favour (I hope so) but figures schmigures … that Giro winning one was his career highlight thus far.
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To give your post some perspective, he finished the TT stage in 13th place 58 seconds behind the winner Ganna.Pross said:
The Giro win was but not necessarily the TT.carbonclem said:This Giro may play out yet in his favour (I hope so) but figures schmigures … that Giro winning one was his career highlight thus far.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I said that further uppblakeney said:
To give your post some perspective, he finished the TT stage in 13th place 58 seconds behind the winner Ganna.Pross said:
The Giro win was but not necessarily the TT.carbonclem said:This Giro may play out yet in his favour (I hope so) but figures schmigures … that Giro winning one was his career highlight thus far.
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Funny moment for the language police
In What's Occurring, G asked his masseuse who Aurelien PP rose for and he said "Ah Jay Deux Air" to which G replied "Ah, AG2R"1 -
Ah!Pross said:
I said that further uppblakeney said:
To give your post some perspective, he finished the TT stage in 13th place 58 seconds behind the winner Ganna.Pross said:
The Giro win was but not necessarily the TT.carbonclem said:This Giro may play out yet in his favour (I hope so) but figures schmigures … that Giro winning one was his career highlight thus far.
Too much wine with dinner last night and completely forgot. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Milan has been really impressive so far on the road. Don't know if the case couldn't be made, that he already seems to be a better road racer than Ganna (based purely on road racing excluding TT's and track obviously). His start is extremely promising at the very least.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230
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Ganna has come 2nd in MSR and 6th in Roubaix. He's also won a Giro road stage.m.r.m. said:Milan has been really impressive so far on the road. Don't know if the case couldn't be made, that he already seems to be a better road racer than Ganna (based purely on road racing excluding TT's and track obviously). His start is extremely promising at the very least.
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