Pre-Giro chat

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    RichN95. said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Remco looked very impressive on the long climbs in the vuelta. I think he got a reality check in Catalunya, but still looked like he's learnt a lot since his last go in the giro.

    He lost time in both Vuelta stages at high altitude and they were longer TT style climbs rather than Giro steepness.
    Must be my memory playing tricks on me.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    pblakeney said:

    takethehighroad said:

    pblakeney said:

    mididoctors said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Roglic is severely hampered by a sub-standard support team as a result of covid. Wouldn't under-estimate, especially given how he likes to race.

    A sky train with a hilltop sprint suits him fine.


    We got a gaggle of riders with a decent mountain top sprint ... I am hoping TGH can hang on to the pair cos he has a fighting chance if he can


    I.think.remco is going to ignite the stages further out and spoil that plan.

    Its down to who can follow

    Anyone can crack in the third ....
    The Sky train has been consigned to history.
    The main train has been Jumbo for the past few years.
    There was a bit of a train in the Tour of the Alps
    Probably more to do with the competition. Jumbo have been blowing up the Ineos train when it matters.
    Your point was actually embedded in the original SkyTrain comment that was made

    As in sky is historical and the fact roglic could ride off the back of said train...

    What's supposed to happen is you read sky train and then think "oh yeah that's a sarcastic joke because sky are in the past and jumbo are better anyway ... Ha ha "

    But I guess it needed more explaining but then it would have
    Lost something in the retelling

    YMMV
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,341
    mididoctors said:


    ...
    YMMV

    My milage does vary. I read it as Sky/Ineos being interchangeable.
    I missed/misunderstood something, and still do for that matter. 🤔
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  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    Been looking forward to seeing what EF were going to do for their kit for the Giro.

    It's leaving me rather underwhelmed. https://efprocycling.com/culture/a-green-twist-for-our-giro-changeout-kit/

    To quote the wife: "Bring back the duck"

    Quite like the bike though.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    JimD666 said:

    Been looking forward to seeing what EF were going to do for their kit for the Giro.

    It's leaving me rather underwhelmed. https://efprocycling.com/culture/a-green-twist-for-our-giro-changeout-kit/

    To quote the wife: "Bring back the duck"

    Quite like the bike though.

    EF jerseys seem to be designed solely for people built like Hugh Carthy. They seldom seem to be MAMIL friendly.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,475
    edited May 2023


    The black pink mix of a few years ago was fantastic. Still looking for the pro team training jersey (less logos) version of that in XS.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    JimD666 said:

    Been looking forward to seeing what EF were going to do for their kit for the Giro.

    It's leaving me rather underwhelmed. https://efprocycling.com/culture/a-green-twist-for-our-giro-changeout-kit/

    To quote the wife: "Bring back the duck"

    Quite like the bike though.

    Need to see it in action to see how much it looks like JV from above. Quite like the "old quilt" look though.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    kingstongraham said:

    JimD666 said:

    Been looking forward to seeing what EF were going to do for their kit for the Giro.

    It's leaving me rather underwhelmed. https://efprocycling.com/culture/a-green-twist-for-our-giro-changeout-kit/

    To quote the wife: "Bring back the duck"

    Quite like the bike though.

    Need to see it in action to see how much it looks like JV from above. Quite like the "old quilt" look though.
    I think it has that combined jersey energy

    I reserve judgement for the same reasons as you ..
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    Gino Mader positive for Covid so won't start, and will be replaced by Yukiya Arashiro.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    andyp said:

    Gino Mader positive for Covid so won't start, and will be replaced by Yukiya Arashiro.

    Not happy.

  • commuterlegs
    commuterlegs Posts: 271
    Sam Oomen replacing the replacement Jos van Emden - Covid all over Jumbo at the moment. Assume Roglic will be bathing in anti-bacterial gel between now and the start.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,982
    Perhaps he will race in a hazmat racing suit.

    *They'd need to sort it out in team colours of course, though Remco could wear the above with a few stripes added.

    Does not bode well for them though does it.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    edited May 2023
    There's talk about the crazy TT maybe not being feasible with the required logistics and motorbike support. Bit odd so long after it was announced.

  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,822
    Not wanting to sound all anti vaxxer, but is this a COVID positive and the related health impacts (prohibiting racing) or is it a COVID positive and therefore it's socially unacceptable to start a bike race?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    takethehighroad said:

    Not wanting to sound all anti vaxxer, but is this a COVID positive and the related health impacts (prohibiting racing) or is it a COVID positive and therefore it's socially unacceptable to start a bike race?


    The second one I think. He's not the only one out. It's all a bit 2020
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  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 6,057
    takethehighroad said:

    Not wanting to sound all anti vaxxer, but is this a COVID positive and the related health impacts (prohibiting racing) or is it a COVID positive and therefore it's socially unacceptable to start a bike race?

    I suspect than more than anything, it's a cautionary stop to racing and/or intensive training for the positive-testing pro riders for at least 7 days and then seeing how their body reacts to a bit of z3+.

    Smashing out some z4+ while positive is a massive risk for at least extending symptoms a while, or at worst becoming a long covid statistic if you are still struggling over three months later.

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    The bookies odds (Bet365)

    4/5 Evenepoel
    15/8 Roglic
    12/1 Thomas
    16/1 Geoghegan Hart, Almeida
    22/1 Vlasov
    25/1 Vine
    33/1 Carthy, Caruso
    50/1 Haig, Kamna
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    RichN95. said:

    The bookies odds (Bet365)

    4/5 Evenepoel
    15/8 Roglic
    12/1 Thomas
    16/1 Geoghegan Hart, Almeida
    22/1 Vlasov
    25/1 Vine
    33/1 Carthy, Caruso
    50/1 Haig, Kamna

    Not that I think he'll win, but Haig at 50/1 seems ridiculously long odds. Especially compared to Vine.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    This is nice

  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    kingstongraham said:

    This is nice

    With all the sponsors it looks like a poster for a music festival
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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    RichN95. said:

    kingstongraham said:

    This is nice

    With all the sponsors it looks like a poster for a music festival
    Would you want to go see any of those bands though.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited May 2023
    webboo said:

    RichN95. said:

    kingstongraham said:

    This is nice

    With all the sponsors it looks like a poster for a music festival
    Would you want to go see any of those bands though.
    Intermarche: French Daft Punk knock off (late DP, not the good earlier stuff). No
    Circus: Modern Prog rock. No
    Vini Zabu: I liked their Eurovision winner, very catchy, but I'm not familiar with their other stuff. Maybe
    Wanty: 90s Brit pop band who had one big album, which I didn't buy. Maybe.

    I'll probably go and see Cube on the dance stage
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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Gobert. Belgian punk band who’s fan start by gobbing at them before projectile vomiting at them.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    I apologise for calling Intermarche a Daft Punk knock off. They are in fact Thomas Bangalter's new project, hence the similar sound.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,341
    Paolo Nalini?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,818
    Nalini and Kane - did late 90s dance hit Beachball.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited May 2023
    To round out the line-up

    Uvex: Swedish DJ. He's good but I prefer Cube
    Bryton: Indie rock about environmental issues. Lacking their bass player who got three months jail for gluing herself to Mumford & Son.
    Steveny: Lazily named DJ from New York called Steve
    Gaerne: Cornish thrash metal band
    UCI World Team: Whimsical band similar to the Divine Comedy.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    RichN95. said:

    kingstongraham said:

    This is nice

    With all the sponsors it looks like a poster for a music festival
    There's room for more, I reckon
  • stage_hunter
    stage_hunter Posts: 317
    RichN95. said:

    The bookies odds (Bet365)

    4/5 Evenepoel
    15/8 Roglic
    12/1 Thomas
    16/1 Geoghegan Hart, Almeida
    22/1 Vlasov
    25/1 Vine
    33/1 Carthy, Caruso
    50/1 Haig, Kamna

    Struggling to see what Almeida has done to be on TGH’s level given past and recent results. Haig looks fantastic value
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,165
    edited May 2023
    stage_hunter said:

    RichN95. said:

    The bookies odds (Bet365)

    4/5 Evenepoel
    15/8 Roglic
    12/1 Thomas
    16/1 Geoghegan Hart, Almeida
    22/1 Vlasov
    25/1 Vine
    33/1 Carthy, Caruso
    50/1 Haig, Kamna

    Struggling to see what Almeida has done to be on TGH’s level given past and recent results. Haig looks fantastic value
    Almeida and tgh look pretty close on this season's form, and probably last season's too.

    Also likely to be leader, unlike haig and probably tgh.

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