Chain Stay Rubbing on crank arm Edit: Front derailleur
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What you've described ("chain froze") sounds like 'chain suck'. Were you changing gear (on the front) when it happened?
It occurs when the chain doesn't disengage from the teeth of the chainring, causing the chain to wrap around the chainring. This can knock the front derailleur out of alignment, or worse, bend it.
Check the chainrings aren't worn. A really dirty/dry chain could also be the cause, but yours does look sparkling clean.1 -
It's not the crank arm separating from the crank as shimano have been known to do ?0 -
Thanks this was what I was looking for. Yes it happened as I was changing. I try to clean it regularly. I will check it again later. Thank you.masjer said:What you've described ("chain froze") sounds like 'chain suck'. Were you changing gear (on the front) when it happened?
It occurs when the chain doesn't disengage from the teeth of the chainring, causing the chain to wrap around the chainring. This can knock the front derailleur out of alignment, or worse, bend it.
Check the chainrings aren't worn. A really dirty/dry chain could also be the cause, but yours does look sparkling clean.1 -
Then it would be a two up.cllowryglen said:
nope, I cycle because I enjoy it not because I am trying to prove myself to anyone. The whole chain-stay thing was my bad fine, but does it matter if me and my group call it a pace mate or something else entirely? no, it does not. I don't do group cycles, so if there are specific words for this then fine, but I call it this as my work colleague and I do this on our commutes with each other and this is what he called it- I think the chain gang thing is probably more related to there being a group then a two people.webboo said:
So first of all you change the name of a front mech to a chain stay. Now you change the name of a chain gang to pace mates.cllowryglen said:
its not for everyone and that is just a bad cyclist if they are that close. I always ensure there is a lot of distances between incase of sudden breaks or turns. The point is not to be up someone's bottom but to push myself a little faster some days if I have more energy. It isn't even always the person in front of me but someone much further down the road.First.Aspect said:I personally love it when a pace mate latches on to my back wheel on my way to work.
Ever thought of getting a book on cycling.
I was going to say pace mate sounds like a bit of innuendo but really 2 up doesn’t any better.
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crank felt pretty stable...trevor.hall12 said:It's not the crank arm separating from the crank as shimano have been known to do ?
wow I hope you didnt get hurt when that happened! I now worry about my cranktrevor.hall12 said:
It's not the crank arm separating from the crank as shimano have been known to do ?
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a wafty crank can always cause a loss of sleep.cllowryglen said:
crank felt pretty stable...trevor.hall12 said:It's not the crank arm separating from the crank as shimano have been known to do ?
wow I hope you didnt get hurt when that happened! I now worry about my cranktrevor.hall12 said:
It's not the crank arm separating from the crank as shimano have been known to do ?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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depends if he takes on his pace mate without the pace mate bring properly paced we suppose.webboo said:
Then it would be a two up.cllowryglen said:
nope, I cycle because I enjoy it not because I am trying to prove myself to anyone. The whole chain-stay thing was my bad fine, but does it matter if me and my group call it a pace mate or something else entirely? no, it does not. I don't do group cycles, so if there are specific words for this then fine, but I call it this as my work colleague and I do this on our commutes with each other and this is what he called it- I think the chain gang thing is probably more related to there being a group then a two people.webboo said:
So first of all you change the name of a front mech to a chain stay. Now you change the name of a chain gang to pace mates.cllowryglen said:
its not for everyone and that is just a bad cyclist if they are that close. I always ensure there is a lot of distances between incase of sudden breaks or turns. The point is not to be up someone's bottom but to push myself a little faster some days if I have more energy. It isn't even always the person in front of me but someone much further down the road.First.Aspect said:I personally love it when a pace mate latches on to my back wheel on my way to work.
Ever thought of getting a book on cycling.
I was going to say pace mate sounds like a bit of innuendo but really 2 up doesn’t any better..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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so is there a group of you pace mating esch other?cllowryglen said:
nope, I cycle because I enjoy it not because I am trying to prove myself to anyone. The whole chain-stay thing was my bad fine, but does it matter if me and my group call it a pace mate or something else entirely? no, it does not. I don't do group cycles, so if there are specific words for this then fine, but I call it this as my work colleague and I do this on our commutes with each other and this is what he called it- I think the chain gang thing is probably more related to there being a group then a two people.webboo said:
So first of all you change the name of a front mech to a chain stay. Now you change the name of a chain gang to pace mates.cllowryglen said:
its not for everyone and that is just a bad cyclist if they are that close. I always ensure there is a lot of distances between incase of sudden breaks or turns. The point is not to be up someone's bottom but to push myself a little faster some days if I have more energy. It isn't even always the person in front of me but someone much further down the road.First.Aspect said:I personally love it when a pace mate latches on to my back wheel on my way to work.
Ever thought of getting a book on cycling.
MF thought that you just pace mate'd by yourself?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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wow I hope you didnt get hurt when that happened! I now worry about my cranktrevor.hall12 said:
It's not the crank arm separating from the crank as shimano have been known to do ?
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I thought it was something you did when you couldn’t sleep. I suppose it’s not something you do when sharing a sleeping bag in a foxhole.MattFalle said:
a wafty crank can always cause a loss of sleep.cllowryglen said:
crank felt pretty stable...trevor.hall12 said:It's not the crank arm separating from the crank as shimano have been known to do ?
wow I hope you didnt get hurt when that happened! I now worry about my cranktrevor.hall12 said:
It's not the crank arm separating from the crank as shimano have been known to do ?0 -
It's not all that common. Fwiw if it does happen it tends to give you some warning. Early signs are what feels like a bent pedal. It is a distinct and very odd sensation. If you then find that the outer chain ring doesn't extent smoothly to the crank, it is about to fail and you will unfortunately need to go shopping.cllowryglen said:
crank felt pretty stable...trevor.hall12 said:It's not the crank arm separating from the crank as shimano have been known to do ?
wow I hope you didnt get hurt when that happened! I now worry about my cranktrevor.hall12 said:
It's not the crank arm separating from the crank as shimano have been known to do ?
Only an issue with ultegra and dura ace. If you have 105 or lower, you won't see this.
Your issue is just the front mech though so don't worry.1 -
No, I usually only do it if me and my colleague is going home/to work the same time as we live in the same direction. But I was in earlier yesterday so me and another cyclist decided to have a bit of fun since the lane was empty at 5.40am with just us two. As I said I don't do group rides really so I only do it with people rarely and usually for small distances as you can't guarantee what is going on. Never if its peak times and the lane is busy. Thats just asking for trouble.MattFalle said:
so is there a group of you pace mating esch other?cllowryglen said:
nope, I cycle because I enjoy it not because I am trying to prove myself to anyone. The whole chain-stay thing was my bad fine, but does it matter if me and my group call it a pace mate or something else entirely? no, it does not. I don't do group cycles, so if there are specific words for this then fine, but I call it this as my work colleague and I do this on our commutes with each other and this is what he called it- I think the chain gang thing is probably more related to there being a group then a two people.webboo said:
So first of all you change the name of a front mech to a chain stay. Now you change the name of a chain gang to pace mates.cllowryglen said:
its not for everyone and that is just a bad cyclist if they are that close. I always ensure there is a lot of distances between incase of sudden breaks or turns. The point is not to be up someone's bottom but to push myself a little faster some days if I have more energy. It isn't even always the person in front of me but someone much further down the road.First.Aspect said:I personally love it when a pace mate latches on to my back wheel on my way to work.
Ever thought of getting a book on cycling.
MF thought that you just pace mate'd by yourself?0 -
So it turned out the front mech had a bend in it and was not tightening back up fully. So just replace that and everything was good.1
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Cheers for the update. Good work!cllowryglen said:So it turned out the front mech had a bend in it and was not tightening back up fully. So just replace that and everything was good.
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Great. As you learn about it, this sort of stuff gets quite fun. Until it doesn't because you break something. Not that I ever have.cllowryglen said:So it turned out the front mech had a bend in it and was not tightening back up fully. So just replace that and everything was good.
Anyhow don't be deterred by the mild ribbing on the forum.1 -
ribbing is good sometimes, it can bring pleasure to a bland situation.
overall though,don't tke this bicycling stuff too seriouly - many do snd we've all seen where that ends up
#BCdon'tcyclegate.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Taking cycling too seriously can lead to not saying hello to other cyclists because you are training too seriously.
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Ribbing is fine, so long as it doesn't get too insulting or personal. I am learning a lot about my bike by rebuilding it and repainting it. It can be a bit frustrating at times but I am enjoying it. I don't think I will ever take cycling so seriously that I wont nod hello to others, but in London I rarely get a nod back.First.Aspect said:
Great. As you learn about it, this sort of stuff gets quite fun. Until it doesn't because you break something. Not that I ever have.cllowryglen said:So it turned out the front mech had a bend in it and was not tightening back up fully. So just replace that and everything was good.
Anyhow don't be deterred by the mild ribbing on the forum.0 -
London is not the world centre of friendliness. Doesn't help that there are so many cyclists.1
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Don't go knocking/tarring London Dynamo with the same brush please..
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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