New Swift Smart Trainer - bit of a bargain?
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My biggest concern with it at the moment is if they decide to require a Zwift subscription in the future. If you subscribe to zwift and need a new trainer then it's probably a no brainer.0
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It's interesting alright. I was hoping to get a decent price for my kickr core and buy a new wattbike, but I doubt that now. Perhaps it will be good for the market. Bring the cost of trainers and smart bikes down, time will tell....0
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DCR seems to hint at accuracy problems in his video.
He does caveat that by saying it should be sorted out with firmware updates.0 -
A Jet black Volt with preinstalled cassette of your choice plus some other little bits- seems a very good deal for entry level dd trainer.1
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Fixed cassette ratios depending on number of speeds, like 11s 11-28. Guess you can always sell
the cassette if not to your taste.0 -
It looks like a crazy good deal.0
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Isn't it just this with a Zwift badge at the same price.
https://www.evanscycles.com/brand/jet-black/volt-ems-smart-cycle-trainer-702834?utm_source=rakuten&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=Kelkoo UK&utm_content=15&utm_term=3642857&ranMID=45658&ranEAID=Sl5uPV1NkiY&ranSiteID=Sl5uPV1NkiY-vdMpBRMar.Gc_KO8lY9WHw#colcode=70283403The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It's 10% cheaper, but that looks a decent deal too.0
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Y, they’ve been transparent that it is a Volt with some changes which externally I think include greater bike compatibility plus some internal ones too?pblakeney said:It's just this with a Zwift badge.
https://www.evanscycles.com/brand/jet-black/volt-ems-smart-cycle-trainer-702834?utm_source=rakuten&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=Kelkoo UK&utm_content=15&utm_term=3642857&ranMID=45658&ranEAID=Sl5uPV1NkiY&ranSiteID=Sl5uPV1NkiY-vdMpBRMar.Gc_KO8lY9WHw#colcode=70283403
As it’s £50 less than the Volt and includes the cassette of your choice (although ratios themselves are set to 11-28 /11-30 for 12 speed).
I still think it’s a darn good deal. Unless deals on other “better” ones appear soon I’m quite likely to plump for one soon to encourage consistent use over winter as I do want to have a better turbo setup than my current in-smart yet extremely well used Kurt Kinetic.0 -
Having got a Neo 2T at the start of 2020 (my luckiest and best timed purchase) I can say that you won't regret it.andyrr said:... I’m quite likely to plump for one soon to encourage consistent use over winter as I do want to have a better turbo setup than my current in-smart yet extremely well used Kurt Kinetic.
Anyone want a well used dusty Kurt Kinetic? For a reasonable donation. 😉 Delivery is probably more than cost for these beasts.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
DCR's latest review. Looks to be better value than other makes. It may force prices down?
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2022/10/zwift-hub-smart-trainer-in-depth-review-the-best-bang-for-your-buck.html0 -
Looks like a great deal and I would probably buy it if you were able to fold the legs and put it away when not in use.Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי0
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Went to buy one last night and all sold out for now.0
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When there were Saris H3s going new for under £450 recently, they are a no-brainer compared to a rebadged Jetblack Volt that's been around for several years, without being raved about.================
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At a bit under £500, available now is Saris H3, Elite Suito-T, Tacx Flux-S.
Do those beat the Zwift one for £450 including a cassette?0 -
I registered a pre-order a couple of weeks back, but was notified yesterday when they expected to open orders) that they’re sold out. more expected at end of the month.kingstongraham said:Went to buy one last night and all sold out for now.
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The Jetblack Volt got a good review from DC Rainmaker last year https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2021/07/jetblack-volt-smart-trainer-in-depth-review.html , at a price about 75% higher than the Zwift one is on sale now for. It's proper market disruption. The Jetblack is now on Amazon at £449 as well.N0bodyOfTheGoat said:When there were Saris H3s going new for under £450 recently, they are a no-brainer compared to a rebadged Jetblack Volt that's been around for several years, without being raved about.
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Is there not a case to be made that a whole load of trainers were bought during lockdowns so demand is now diminished?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Doesn't seem to be at this price.pblakeney said:Is there not a case to be made that a whole load of trainers were bought during lockdowns so demand is now diminished?
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I’ve seen a lot of newish ones for sale, with sellers asking top £ . I’d want a big knock down for an out of warranty bit of electromechanical kit.pblakeney said:Is there not a case to be made that a whole load of trainers were bought during lockdowns so demand is now diminished?
Related, are there reliability issues with any particular models?0 -
That was kinda my point. People who really wanted one have already got one.kingstongraham said:
Doesn't seem to be at this price.pblakeney said:Is there not a case to be made that a whole load of trainers were bought during lockdowns so demand is now diminished?
New buyers are being tempted at the new low cost point.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
They can ask, doesn't mean they'll get. Any item is only worth what it sells for.Mad_Malx said:
I’ve seen a lot of newish ones for sale, with sellers asking top £ . I’d want a big knock down for an out of warranty bit of electromechanical kit.pblakeney said:Is there not a case to be made that a whole load of trainers were bought during lockdowns so demand is now diminished?
Related, are there reliability issues with any particular models?
I should have sold my Rock n Roll 2 years ago. Near as dammit worthless now.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I've got a wheel on trainer that I've been happy with for years, but at this price, I'll buy a direct drive one to replace it.pblakeney said:
That was kinda my point. People who really wanted one have already got one.kingstongraham said:
Doesn't seem to be at this price.pblakeney said:Is there not a case to be made that a whole load of trainers were bought during lockdowns so demand is now diminished?
New buyers are being tempted at the new low cost point.
The price changes demand.0 -
Agreed - surely nobody's now paying more than about £250 second hand for any trainer that was selling for up to £1000 a couple of months ago.pblakeney said:
They can ask, doesn't mean they'll get. Any item is only worth what it sells for.Mad_Malx said:
I’ve seen a lot of newish ones for sale, with sellers asking top £ . I’d want a big knock down for an out of warranty bit of electromechanical kit.pblakeney said:Is there not a case to be made that a whole load of trainers were bought during lockdowns so demand is now diminished?
Related, are there reliability issues with any particular models?
I should have sold my Rock n Roll 2 years ago. Near as dammit worthless now.0 -
Neo 1s are still changing hands for ~£400.Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
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It's still a very good trainer and will outperform the cheaper direct drives like the Flux, Suito, and in many ways the new Zwift / Jetblack. Though you'd need balls to buy a 7 year old out of warranty bit of electronics.daniel_b said:Neo 1s are still changing hands for ~£400.
Albeit you can get a Neo2SE for £700 from Wiggle, which whilst not majorly upgraded, at least is new with the warranty that goes with that.1 -
If you can get a cheap H3 I've had one for 2 years with no complaints.
Only slight issue is if you are a sprinter it's supposedly good for measuring up to 2000 watts but mine won't register much over half that - but I've had the same issue with other turbos, and any power meter I've ever used.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Nothing to do with the power your legs are capable of putting out then?DeVlaeminck said:If you can get a cheap H3 I've had one for 2 years with no complaints.
Only slight issue is if you are a sprinter it's supposedly good for measuring up to 2000 watts but mine won't register much over half that - but I've had the same issue with other turbos, and any power meter I've ever used.1 -
Direct drive is a game changer KG.kingstongraham said:
I've got a wheel on trainer that I've been happy with for years, but at this price, I'll buy a direct drive one to replace it.pblakeney said:
That was kinda my point. People who really wanted one have already got one.kingstongraham said:
Doesn't seem to be at this price.pblakeney said:Is there not a case to be made that a whole load of trainers were bought during lockdowns so demand is now diminished?
New buyers are being tempted at the new low cost point.
The price changes demand.1