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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,722
    vincesummerskRoxcBTr said:

    Tramadol is an medium strength opoid painkiller, which is well known to commonly cause central nervous system side effects, including hallucinations.
    If you had pain severe enough to actually need tramadol, you would be unlikely to be fit to ride in a pro bike race!

    Hallucinations isn't listed as one of the more common side effects.

    However, among the ones that are, we have:
    - loss of strength or weakness.
    - muscle tightness, aches and pains.
    - discouragement.

    Hardly the stuff of champions.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • vincesummerskRoxcBTr
    vincesummerskRoxcBTr Posts: 1,063
    edited August 2022
    Hallucinations isn't listed as one of the more common side effects.

    It might not be the commonest but when we used in hospital it was a frequent side effect.
    One of the commonest is nausea - again not very helpful for athletes
  • thejimmymethod
    thejimmymethod Posts: 458
    Mad_Malx said:

    Losing the wt points is going put Arkea near the relegation zone, isn’t it?

    Yes, will put them below Movistar and just above the zone I think
  • bm5
    bm5 Posts: 581
    I definitely had hallucinations when I had it after an op. Really disturbing. But obviously not every one gets them.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    thejimmymethod said:

    Mad_Malx said:

    Losing the wt points is going put Arkea near the relegation zone, isn’t it?

    Yes, will put them below Movistar and just above the zone I think
    It cost them 455 points, which puts them below Cofidis, but still above Bike Exchange, EF Education and Movistar, with Lotto Soudal and Israel PT still in the relegation places. Arkea very much back in the mix though.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    DeadCalm said:

    thejimmymethod said:

    Mad_Malx said:

    Losing the wt points is going put Arkea near the relegation zone, isn’t it?

    Yes, will put them below Movistar and just above the zone I think
    It cost them 455 points, which puts them below Cofidis, but still above Bike Exchange, EF Education and Movistar, with Lotto Soudal and Israel PT still in the relegation places. Arkea very much back in the mix though.

    It's a joke that they weren't deducted more points on top of that. If he'd dropped the empty tramadol packaging on the floor he'd have got a 25 point fine.
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