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Vuelta a Espana 2022 - Pre-race chat

DeadCalmDeadCalm Posts: 4,099
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Teams are starting to be announced.

BORA - hansgrohe for Vuelta a Espana: Ryan Mullen, Danny van Poppel, Sam Bennett, Jonas Koch, Sergio Higuita, Wilco Kelderman, Emanuel Buchmann and Jai Hindley.

AG2R Citroën for Vuelta a Espana: Ben O'Connor, Clément Champoussin, Dorian Godon, Jaakko Hänninen, Bob Jungels, Nans Peters, Nicolas Prodhomme and Andrea Vendrame.

Team BikeExchange - Jayco for Vuelta a Espana: Simon Yates, Lawson Craddock, Luke Durbridge, Kaden Groves, Lucas Hamilton, Michael Hepburn, Kelland O'Brien and Callum Scotson.

Trek - Segafredo for Vuelta a Espana: Mads Pedersen, Dario Cataldo, Kenny Elissonde, Julien Bernard, Juan Pedro López, Antonio Tiberi, Alex Kirsch and Daan Hoole.

Team My Man 2022:

Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
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  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 12,973
    Feels like ages since we've had a proper TTT, quite looking forward to stage 1.
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  • DeadCalmDeadCalm Posts: 4,099
    UAE Team Emirates for Vuelta a Espana: João Almeida, Juan Ayuso, Pascal Ackermann, Brandon McNulty, Juan Sebastián Molano, Ivo Oliveira, Jan Polanc and Marc Soler.

    It'll be interesting to see how Juan Ayuso fares in his first GT.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 3,232
    The UAE team seems stronger than their Tour team.
    PTP Champion 2019 & 2022
  • roscoeroscoe Posts: 393
    No Amador or Fraile for Ineos. Both riding Tour of Denmark.
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 25,481
    m.r.m. said:

    The UAE team seems stronger than their Tour team.

    I think Pogacar would probably give the Tour team the edge.

    It's stronger for the sprint stages, I suppose.
  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 3,232
    I meant as a squad around Pogacar. Would have been useful to have Ayuso and Almeida etc. at the Tour.
    PTP Champion 2019 & 2022
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 25,481
    m.r.m. said:

    I meant as a squad around Pogacar. Would have been useful to have Ayuso and Almeida etc. at the Tour.

    I'm not sure a 19 year old who has never done a GT would have massively improved a Tour squad that was already climber heavy.
  • DeadCalmDeadCalm Posts: 4,099
    Ineos: Richard Carapaz, Tao Geoghegan Hart, Ethan Hayter, Luke Plapp, Carlos Rodríguez, Pavel Sivakov, Ben Turner, Dylan van Baarle.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 25,481
    DeadCalm said:

    Ineos: Richard Carapaz, Tao Geoghegan Hart, Ethan Hayter, Luke Plapp, Carlos Rodríguez, Pavel Sivakov, Ben Turner, Dylan van Baarle.

    How can a team that strong feel a bit meh? Two GT winners, two who've won a GC in the last couple of weeks, this year's PR winner and Spanish champion - and yet...
  • ProssPross Posts: 38,834
    Feels odd sending a team leader who is leaving at the end of the season.
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 21,534
    Three days to the team presentation and so far, half a dozen teams have confirmed their lines ups.
    Get a shift on the rest of you, or else fantasy games are going to struggle...
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  • DeadCalmDeadCalm Posts: 4,099
    blazing_saddles said:

    Three days to the team presentation and so far, half a dozen teams have confirmed their lines ups.
    Get a shift on the rest of you, or else fantasy games are going to struggle...

    The teams have been listening to your concerns...

    Jumbo-Visma for Vuelta a Espana: Primoz Roglic, Edoardo Affini, Sam Oomen, Sepp Kuss, Robert Gesink, Mike Teunissen, Chris Harper and Rohan Dennis.

    Movistar Team for Vuelta a Espana: Alejandro Valverde, Enric Mas, Carlos Verona, Nelson Oliveira, José Joaquín Rojas, Mathias Norsgaard, Gregor Mühlberger and Lluís Mas Bonet.

    Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl Team for Vuelta a Espana: Remco Evenepoel, Julian Alaphilippe, Rémi Cavagna, Dries Devenyns, Fausto Masnada, Pieter Serry, Ilan van Wilder and Louis Vervaeke.

    Euskaltel - Euskadi for Vuelta a Espana: Xabier Mikel Azparren, Ibai Azurmendi, Mikel Bizkarra, Joan Bou, Carlos Canal, Gotzon Martín, Mikel Iturria and Luis Ángel Maté.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 25,481
    Is this some sort of punishment for Teunissen?
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 27,087
    kingstongraham said:

    Is this some sort of punishment for Teunissen?


    There's two sprint stages in the Netherlands which he'll be keen for
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  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 25,481
    Well good luck to him on his solo mission.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 27,087
    This is the official Vuelta song for 2022 (yes, there's such a thing)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lehePZybt0c
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  • commuterlegscommuterlegs Posts: 259
    So in terms of GC, is it between:
    Hindley
    Yates
    Carapaz
    Roglic/Kuss
    Evenepoel

    With Mas, Almeida and O'Connor as outsiders?
  • DeadCalmDeadCalm Posts: 4,099
    commuterlegs said:

    So in terms of GC, is it between:
    Hindley
    Yates
    Carapaz
    Roglic/Kuss
    Evenepoel

    With Mas, Almeida and O'Connor as outsiders?

    Assuming he is fully recovered, I'd have thought Roglic is a huge favourite.

    I can't see any way that Kuss is going to be up there on GC. Evenepoel is surely an outsider, at best, for the podium.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 27,087
    edited August 2022
    The current odds (Bet365)

    15/8 Roglic
    5/1 Evenepoel
    13/2 Hindley
    8/1 Carapaz
    11/1 Almeida
    12/1 Yates
    18/1 Lopez, Mas
    25/1 Sivakov
    28/1 Rodriguez
    33/1 O'Connor, Haig, Higuta
    40/1 Geoghegan Hart, Ayuso, Kuss, Quintana, Kelderman

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  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 19,423
    Short for Evenepoel given his previous GT efforts.
  • gethincerigethinceri Posts: 1,461
    Tao worth an e/w at 40/1
  • commuterlegscommuterlegs Posts: 259
    As a former winner and seemingly in decent form, Yates at 12/1 seems good value. Guessing Roglic and Evenepoel will take time in the TTT on everyone else?
  • ProssPross Posts: 38,834
    commuterlegs said:

    So in terms of GC, is it between:
    Hindley
    Yates
    Carapaz
    Roglic/Kuss
    Evenepoel

    With Mas, Almeida and O'Connor as outsiders?

    I would take the chances of those 3 outsiders over Evenepoel based on his previous GT ride. Will be interesting to see if he's moved on from that though.
  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 21,534
    commuterlegs said:

    As a former winner and seemingly in decent form, Yates at 12/1 seems good value. Guessing Roglic and Evenepoel will take time in the TTT on everyone else?

    He would, except for the fact that his last 4 GTs over the last two and a half seasons reads: DNF, 3rd, DNF, DNF......
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • commuterlegscommuterlegs Posts: 259
    blazing_saddles said:


    He would, except for the fact that his last 4 GTs over the last two and a half seasons reads: DNF, 3rd, DNF, DNF......

    But aside from that he's a nailed on winner right? Right? :D
  • DeadCalmDeadCalm Posts: 4,099
    RichN95. said:

    The current odds (Bet365)

    15/8 Roglic
    5/1 Evenepoel
    13/2 Hindley
    8/1 Carapaz
    11/1 Almeida
    12/1 Yates
    18/1 Lopez, Mas
    25/1 Sivakov
    28/1 Rodriguez
    33/1 O'Connor, Haig, Higuta
    40/1 Geoghegan Hart, Ayuso, Kuss, Quintana, Kelderman


    Wide open if it weren't for Roglic.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • DeadCalmDeadCalm Posts: 4,099
    Cofidis for Vuelta a Espana: Bryan Coquard, Davide Cimolai, Jesus Herrada, Jose Herrada, Ruben Fernandez, Rémy Rochas , Davide Villella and Thomas Champion.

    Arkéa Samsic for Vuelta a Espana: Nairo Quintana, Anthony Delaplace, Élie Gesbert, Thibault Guernalec, Simon Gugliemi, Dan McLay, Lukasz Owsian and Clément Russo.
    Team My Man 2022:

    Antwan Tolhoek, Sam Oomen, Tom Dumoulin, Thymen Arensman, Remco Evenepoel, Benoît Cosnefroy, Tom Pidcock, Mark Cavendish, Romain Bardet
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 27,087
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  • ProssPross Posts: 38,834
    A lot of these teams are looking like Frakenstein's monster, made up from whatever parts happened to be available. I guess that's always the same at this stage of the season though.
  • JimD666JimD666 Posts: 1,683
    Roglic at 15/8... is that the odds of him winning or falling off?

    😉
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