Is this the ultimate in utterly pointless bicycle innovation?

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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    :D


    tbh, cadex is, utterly bizarrely, stiff as (for the age). 100% agree it should be as wobbly as over cookedspsghetti but i'd Cat 3 race it.

    whether thats down to the bars/stem/Dura Ace set up i'm not sure but its ranfomly good - stiffer than my CAAD 4 (same era?)

    nowhere near S3 or even Prince yhough.....
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    the state of the industry and how the average cyclist is perceived by it, as being wealthy beyond need, is exemplified by 4iii.
    They have a buyback scheme, whereby you send them a left crank and they convert it into a power meter, which they then sell... they don't even give you the option to pay you money for that, the only option is a charity donation, because of course no cyclist needs $50, it's just the kind of cash you forget in your jeans when you do a laundry, right?
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    tbf to them, £50 is a nice breakfast.

    not great one, but a nice one
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    also tbf to them, its what the public have let them do.

    if all the clubbies that clamoured for thisshitt had said no at the begining they wouldn't have been allowed to go it.

    but clubbies neeeeeded this stuff for the Saturday/Sunday club run, so its happening.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • redvision
    redvision Posts: 2,958

    the state of the industry and how the average cyclist is perceived by it, as being wealthy beyond need, is exemplified by 4iii.
    They have a buyback scheme, whereby you send them a left crank and they convert it into a power meter, which they then sell... they don't even give you the option to pay you money for that, the only option is a charity donation, because of course no cyclist needs $50, it's just the kind of cash you forget in your jeans when you do a laundry, right?

    Personally I don't have a problem with that. It's a way cyclists can recycle a left crank arm when they are looking to replace the chainset.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    There are warning signs that things are changing... there are fewer online retailers than there were 5 years ago... for instance Ribble no longer sell stuff, only bikes and some retailers have gone off the radar, not being replaced by others. Bike shops need to have a side business to survive, being that a cafe' or else... it looks to me as the all industry is less profitable than it used to be, most likely because the bubble has burst, most likely because fewer people enter the sport, most likely because it is too expensive
    left the forum March 2023
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    edited July 2022
    redvision said:

    the state of the industry and how the average cyclist is perceived by it, as being wealthy beyond need, is exemplified by 4iii.
    They have a buyback scheme, whereby you send them a left crank and they convert it into a power meter, which they then sell... they don't even give you the option to pay you money for that, the only option is a charity donation, because of course no cyclist needs $50, it's just the kind of cash you forget in your jeans when you do a laundry, right?

    Personally I don't have a problem with that. It's a way cyclists can recycle a left crank arm when they are looking to replace the chainset.
    Well, I would like to be paid, in return for something I paid good money for... charity is a personal thing... I don't understand why they don't want to pay you... or probably I do understand it as a tax thing... essentially they get a crank for free
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  • redvision
    redvision Posts: 2,958
    It is an expensive sport but not really that different to other sports though.

    Cost of living is not just restricted to essentials. It's everything.

    The reason prices in the bike industry are through the roof are because of supply and demand. Contrary to your theory, the boom is still happening, more and more people are buying bikes (many because they can't afford to run their car). There are still supply issues, and, as a consequence of the last couple of years, fewer retailers. Less competition, component shortages + higher demand = inevitable price rises.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087

    There are warning signs that things are changing... there are fewer online retailers than there were 5 years ago... for instance Ribble no longer sell stuff, only bikes and some retailers have gone off the radar, not being replaced by others. Bike shops need to have a side business to survive, being that a cafe' or else... it looks to me as the all industry is less profitable than it used to be, most likely because the bubble has burst, most likely because fewer people enter the sport, most likely because it is too expensive

    Yet bike shops up here in Yorkshire seem to be doing well, probably because you can’t get stuff on line.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    I still baulk at the price paid for Sigma Sports last year. A high multiple of a COVID-high earnings figure.
  • Where do reservoirs/pump for the system fit? Couldn't work it out from the Atmoz website.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325

    Where do reservoirs/pump for the system fit? Couldn't work it out from the Atmoz website.

    they sit around the hub, which is then connected to the valve via an uber complicated system
    left the forum March 2023
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    I suppose if the wheel had carbon spokes like the SYS Mavic ones, one could have a system where one spoke is actually the pipe/valve system, with only one valve at the hub to connect to a pump. That would look a lot neater and less of an eye sore.
    left the forum March 2023
  • Where do reservoirs/pump for the system fit? Couldn't work it out from the Atmoz website.

    they sit around the hub, which is then connected to the valve via an uber complicated system
    Aha! I see , one for each wheel then!

    Maybe in racing rhe SDs could hack into the control radio frequency and let the opposition's tyres down, might let someone beat Pogacar 🤫