sunday will be back

sungod

'ning

bright start again

ride and cafes, perhaps discover a new cake, followed by cdd, lazing and bubbly

tlw1

Shropshire highland challenge today, should be fun.

Still rather full of ale from yesterday, but it’s to be expected.

Later is some friends for a bbq

oxoman

Morning all this fine sunny morning. Family outing to Cosford Airshow to watch the planes. Family first so see how it goes. Few beers later with eldest.

pinno

Windy chilly grey cloudy shizzle.
Roller sesh in June?! I must protest.

Lasagne, garlic bread, side salad and a couple of glasses of Côtes du Rhône was had. Fantastic. Then cdd highlights (stage 6 too) and Le Mans coverage for a while and slept like a baby.

sungod

sunny ride running in newly waxed chain ready for hols, clouded over a bit now though, no new cakes discovered

perhaps some online shopping, been stocking up on bike bits as a few things seem in short supply/unobtainable

forecast for the coming week looks promising

pinno

What wax are you using SG?

sungod

pinno said:

What wax are you using SG?

ufo drip, mainly as it's quick/easy and can be applied even at fairly low temperature

for travel it's ideal, with high heat+distance chains need rewaxing every 1-2 days (every 200km or so), it only takes a couple of mins to put a drop on each link

also used simple wax for initial hot dip, then ufo to re-wax, didn't notice any difference vs. ufo from the start

when the ufo runs out, i may try the silca wax and their drip wax top-up

been using wax c. 3 years now, chains/cassettes do seem to last longer and of course there's no build up of dirt, even riding in lanzarote where even with a dry-ish lube like r&r gold a chain would be black and gritty within a couple of days from the ash

pinno

What wax are you using SG?

sungod said:

pinno said:

What wax are you using SG?

ufo drip, mainly as it's quick/easy and can be applied even at fairly low temperature

for travel it's ideal, with high heat+distance chains need rewaxing every 1-2 days (every 200km or so), it only takes a couple of mins to put a drop on each link

also used simple wax for initial hot dip, then ufo to re-wax, didn't notice any difference vs. ufo from the start

when the ufo runs out, i may try the silca wax and their drip wax top-up

been using wax c. 3 years now, chains/cassettes do seem to last longer and of course there's no build up of dirt, even riding in lanzarote where even with a dry-ish lube like r&r gold a chain would be black and gritty within a couple of days from the ash

[You're preaching to the converted]

I use Squirt.
Didn't like the consistency of the UFO. Found that I had to keep it indoors in a warm place but even then, never came out of the nozzle in a way I could meter it effectively. Seemed to be always having a fight with it. Too viscous or splitting, rarely just right.
Having done my own hot wax dips but finding affordable and pure enough wax or at least, good elements that would make it economical as opposed to simply buying Molten was tricky.
I suppose you could buy in bulk but as it was experimental, I didn't want to end up with a heap of stuff that I didn't want.
I did buy some Molten wax (5 years ago?) and that initial 200 miles was amazing.
However, I have found that just Squirt is more than adequate if I use it sparingly and often
When I take the chain off, I apply it whilst the chain is still warm in my hands (not hot) from 'cooking' it and this for me works well as a base.
I did a couple of fettling jobs and asked for payment in Squirt wax, so I have enough to keep me going for a while before I start playing with something else.

Do you add PTFE Teflon powder and do you use a rice cooker?

pinno

This seems ecofromical:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193652540450?hash=item2d16974422:g:fegAAOSwe09iZD55

veronese68

Morning folks,
Traditional slow start is being enjoyed. Might make the coffee in a minute. Day of pottering and getting ready for holiday, it's gone from not being for ages to being in 4 days. I must have nodded off for a month.
I use Squirt through the summer but found it washes off too easily in winter. New chain about now, clean and Squirted, then revert to wet lube about October. Replace at .75% worn and get 3 chains to a cassette.
I've been looking at 11 speed hub gears for a winter/hack bike. Narrowly missed a new hub for £145 off the bayofshite.
Looks nice out, EPO and daughter heading into the shops so peace and quiet for me.

sungod

pinno said:

What wax are you using SG?

sungod said:

pinno said:

What wax are you using SG?

ufo drip, mainly as it's quick/easy and can be applied even at fairly low temperature

for travel it's ideal, with high heat+distance chains need rewaxing every 1-2 days (every 200km or so), it only takes a couple of mins to put a drop on each link

also used simple wax for initial hot dip, then ufo to re-wax, didn't notice any difference vs. ufo from the start

when the ufo runs out, i may try the silca wax and their drip wax top-up

been using wax c. 3 years now, chains/cassettes do seem to last longer and of course there's no build up of dirt, even riding in lanzarote where even with a dry-ish lube like r&r gold a chain would be black and gritty within a couple of days from the ash

[You're preaching to the converted]

I use Squirt.
Didn't like the consistency of the UFO. Found that I had to keep it indoors in a warm place but even then, never came out of the nozzle in a way I could meter it effectively. Seemed to be always having a fight with it. Too viscous or splitting, rarely just right.
Having done my own hot wax dips but finding affordable and pure enough wax or at least, good elements that would make it economical as opposed to simply buying Molten was tricky.
I suppose you could buy in bulk but as it was experimental, I didn't want to end up with a heap of stuff that I didn't want.
I did buy some Molten wax (5 years ago?) and that initial 200 miles was amazing.
However, I have found that just Squirt is more than adequate if I use it sparingly and often
When I take the chain off, I apply it whilst the chain is still warm in my hands (not hot) from 'cooking' it and this for me works well as a base.
I did a couple of fettling jobs and asked for payment in Squirt wax, so I have enough to keep me going for a while before I start playing with something else.

Do you add PTFE Teflon powder and do you use a rice cooker?

the original ufo used turn to sludge or solidify if too cool, once warm it went clear and became very runny, it also needed the chain to be warm enough, which in uk was tricky most of the year

the ufo v2 is water based and thicker, can be applied at much lower temperatures, but it needs shaking really well - if there was any left in the nozzle/top of the bottle, it needed to be forced back down into the bottle to mix in, other than that i never had a problem with controlling the application

i'd just used paraffin wax, warmed in an old billy in a pan of hot water, never tried additives

btw that ptfe powder, at 1.6 μm i think it'd be small enough to cross from lungs to bloodstream, once it's in you it's probably staying there, assuming purity is ok it's not toxic, but fine particles might have other biological effects, i'd use a decent mask or 'wet' it with alcohol/whatever to avoid it being wafted around

Stevo_666

Been out with hounds who are now suitably knackered. Having our future Ukrainian house guest round this afternoon to sort out a few things in advance of next weekend.

orraloon

POIDH 😊

Yet another day of Sorting Stuff, Packing Stuff and thinking why tf have I got this Stuff? Getting there, slowly slowly.

Missing the bike rides now the weather has perked up.

beansnikpoh

Went for a short ride this morning, got a decent tow (I asked, they were fine with it) into the wind off a strong young couple. When we turned back for home they left me grovelling. Turned myself inside out, and eventually caught them up just before they turned off, so I could say thanks through my shattered lungs.

Then a long dog walk on the common.

Loafing for the rest of the day.

Wheelspinner

Another bleak day. Slow start after a bit much vino last night at friends place down the road. Not sure going was such a great idea anyway given the weather.

Did absolutely nothing today of significance.

Stevo_666

orraloon said:

POIDH 😊

That might be just a bit creepy - although we are not into 'distraction' territory...

seanoconn

Back slightly tweaked after a ferocious spell of pace bowling. 6 for 20. BBQ, booze, life isn’t too bad.

pinno

sungod said:

pinno said:

What wax are you using SG?

sungod said:

pinno said:

What wax are you using SG?

ufo drip, mainly as it's quick/easy and can be applied even at fairly low temperature

for travel it's ideal, with high heat+distance chains need rewaxing every 1-2 days (every 200km or so), it only takes a couple of mins to put a drop on each link

also used simple wax for initial hot dip, then ufo to re-wax, didn't notice any difference vs. ufo from the start

when the ufo runs out, i may try the silca wax and their drip wax top-up

been using wax c. 3 years now, chains/cassettes do seem to last longer and of course there's no build up of dirt, even riding in lanzarote where even with a dry-ish lube like r&r gold a chain would be black and gritty within a couple of days from the ash

[You're preaching to the converted]

I use Squirt.
Didn't like the consistency of the UFO. Found that I had to keep it indoors in a warm place but even then, never came out of the nozzle in a way I could meter it effectively. Seemed to be always having a fight with it. Too viscous or splitting, rarely just right.
Having done my own hot wax dips but finding affordable and pure enough wax or at least, good elements that would make it economical as opposed to simply buying Molten was tricky.
I suppose you could buy in bulk but as it was experimental, I didn't want to end up with a heap of stuff that I didn't want.
I did buy some Molten wax (5 years ago?) and that initial 200 miles was amazing.
However, I have found that just Squirt is more than adequate if I use it sparingly and often
When I take the chain off, I apply it whilst the chain is still warm in my hands (not hot) from 'cooking' it and this for me works well as a base.
I did a couple of fettling jobs and asked for payment in Squirt wax, so I have enough to keep me going for a while before I start playing with something else.

Do you add PTFE Teflon powder and do you use a rice cooker?

the original ufo used turn to sludge or solidify if too cool, once warm it went clear and became very runny, it also needed the chain to be warm enough, which in uk was tricky most of the year

the ufo v2 is water based and thicker, can be applied at much lower temperatures, but it needs shaking really well - if there was any left in the nozzle/top of the bottle, it needed to be forced back down into the bottle to mix in, other than that i never had a problem with controlling the application

i'd just used paraffin wax, warmed in an old billy in a pan of hot water, never tried additives

btw that ptfe powder, at 1.6 μm i think it'd be small enough to cross from lungs to bloodstream, once it's in you it's probably staying there, assuming purity is ok it's not toxic, but fine particles might have other biological effects, i'd use a decent mask or 'wet' it with alcohol/whatever to avoid it being wafted around

Noted.

In 2009 before the Caledonia etape, I was wrongly diagnosed with exercise induced asthma.
I coughed all the way up Schiehallion.

Wind the clock forward having met a guy at a climate challenge fund who drove a FIAT across Europe on cooking oil (way before Hugh Fearnley Whittinbottom did it). IMpressive to drive a FIAT van that far alone.
He was extracting Dyson Hoover motors to make bicycle powered dynamos bolted to a turbo trainer frame.
I said casually that I came across 2 Dysons on our can/cooking oil collection travels, stripped them and made one good one for the van at the yard.

He said "I hope you wore a mask" and then the penny dropped.

pinno

seanoconn said:

Back slightly tweaked after a ferocious spell of pace bowling. 6 for 20. BBQ, booze, life isn’t too bad.

...and you have thrashed them at table tennis too!

pinno

I stripped my very rough looking Pinarello Alu frame...
first camera munched the memory card, so I have no before pics.

Need colour scheme suggestions.

beansnikpoh

seanoconn said:

Back slightly tweaked after a ferocious spell of pace bowling. 6 for 20. BBQ, booze, life isn’t too bad.

6 for 20! Hat.

seanoconn

beansnikpoh said:

seanoconn said:

Back slightly tweaked after a ferocious spell of pace bowling. 6 for 20. BBQ, booze, life isn’t too bad.

6 for 20! Hat.

Cheers. I was quietly pleased. 2 eleven year olds and a wife that bats like a girl. 2 innings 😎

seanoconn

https://youtu.be/h2x_DI7tzNQ

pinno

May I say that you are a shameless basket Seano?

@beansnikpoh what wine club are you in?

seanoconn

You may 👍😎

pinno

seanoconn said:

You may 👍😎

Fair enough.

I don't rate your coaching skills though.

beansnikpoh

pinno said:

May I say that you are a shameless basket Seano?

@beansnikpoh what wine club are you in?

I'm in no club. The Wine Society is worth joining.

beansnikpoh

seanoconn said:

https://youtu.be/h2x_DI7tzNQ

Genius.

Both you and the Fast Show.

thistle_

Went for a walk.
Was a long way and was hilly.
Lost an expensive thing on top of a mountain 🙁

pblakeney

pinno said:

I stripped my very rough looking Pinarello Alu frame...
first camera munched the memory card, so I have no before pics.

Need colour scheme suggestions.

Probably boring and predictable but here is the traditional, and the vintage alu.
I'd go traditional. Failing that, forgo Pinarello and go complete custom.

pinno

@pblakeney

It was in Banesto colours.

Can't go red with 'fake' chrome polished alu rear chain stays or 3/4 rear triangle 'cos of the black carbon forks. Don't think it will go.

May however, go with a metallic burgundy with single 'chrome' chain stay.
Whaddya think?

I have access to some Vauxhall colours which in Hicote double acrylic are good to use and produce good results.

+ lacquer of course