Cracked carbon rims

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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Tbh, the only people who can tell are the OP and the shop.

    This is just all conjecture.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    edited May 2022
    redvision said:

    I had a set of the carbon quattros. Absolutely loved them. They had the naked carbon weave but did not have anything like that line/ crack in the image.

    These appear to be Wind 55 DBs - not quattros. So there's no reason to assume they would be identical.
  • katani
    katani Posts: 141
    edited May 2022
    imposter2.0 said:

    ugo.santalucia said:

    you wouldn't buy a Porsche with a massive defect in the paintwork...

    FFS, it’s not a ‘defect’, it’s simply how the carbon layers have been put together. If the OP gets a replacement set, they will probably look identical...

    It's a cosmetic defect.
    ugo.santalucia said:

    trevor.hall12 said:

    imposter2.0 said:

    trevor.hall12 said:

    Wether it's a crack or normal a high end set of wheels shouldn't look like that ,saying it looks terrible is an understatement

    The OP has not stated the make or value of the wheels - so we don't know whether they are 'high-end' or otherwise.

    And if that's how the wheels look out of the box, then that is indeed what they 'should' look like. Aesthetics are not the issue here.

    They are Fulcrum ,I scanned the barcode as its for authenticating them
    Possibly a pair of Quattro DB carbon... can't see any big crack-like feature here






    The "crack" is visible in the third image, on the right hand side rim, running across the "M".

    The surface finish looks very similar to the C-Lux on Campag Bora WTO, but the Campag rims don't have similar "cracks". No idea why they chose to make them with the joints so pronounced, as it doesn't inspire confidence at first sight nor is it aesthetically attractive, but I wouldn't have an issue with it. If they have rolled fine for 500km there is nothing to worry about.

    Nothing the OP can do about it now really. It doesn't qualify for a warranty claim, be it to demand a replacement or a refund. The retailer may take them back for investigation, but then Reynolds will say "it is just hand finish" and it is meant to be like that.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    katani said:

    It's a cosmetic defect.

    Or alternatively, it's a 'cosmetic feature'. Calling it a 'defect' implies it's some kind of manufacturing error - for all we know, it's meant to be like that. Also, the fact that it has stickers placed right over the area in question suggests that it passed QC without issue.

  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Why are we calling them 'Reynolds' wheels all of a sudden - or did I miss something..?
  • gubber12345
    gubber12345 Posts: 493
    pblakeney said:

    OP needs to tell us the brand so we know not to buy them.

    Fulcrum wind dB 40
    Lapierre Aircode 300
    Merida
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,485
    gubber12345 said:

    pblakeney said:

    OP needs to tell us the brand so we know not to buy them.

    Fulcrum wind dB 40
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  • gubber12345
    gubber12345 Posts: 493
    pblakeney said:

    OP needs to tell us the brand so we know not to buy them.

    Fulcrum wind dB 40
    imposter2.0 said:

    gubber12345 said:

    although I won't ever have confidence in them if they don't/won't replace them

    Why not? If there’s no issue with the wheels, then what’s the problem? You said yourself you’ve already done 500 miles on them. If they were cracked as you originally suggested, they would have failed catastrophically ages ago.

    Google some pics of ‘carbon layups under clearcoat’ and then carry on riding.

    Just think that you would always be wondering when or if they're gonna fail...agree tho after 500 miles they should have gone by now
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    gubber12345 said:

    Just think that you would always be wondering when or if they're gonna fail...agree tho after 500 miles they should have gone by now

    They're not going to fail because there's nothing wrong with them. The carbon is supposed to look like that.

  • gubber12345
    gubber12345 Posts: 493
    ugo.santalucia said:

    For comparison, these also are Zipp wheels for disc brakes and don't look like that




    imposter2.0 said:

    redvision said:

    I had a set of the carbon quattros. Absolutely loved them. They had the naked carbon weave but did not have anything like that line/ crack in the image.

    These appear to be Wind 55 DBs - not quattros. So there's no reason to assume they would be identical.
    Fulcrum wind dB 40 mate
    Lapierre Aircode 300
    Merida
  • gubber12345
    gubber12345 Posts: 493
    pblakeney said:

    OP needs to tell us the brand so we know not to buy them.

    Fulcrum wind dB 40
    Lapierre Aircode 300
    Merida
  • gubber12345
    gubber12345 Posts: 493
    DeVlaeminck said:

    It wouldn't bother me so long as I knew they were structurally sound.

    I certainly don't think there's a case for rejecting them on cosmetic grounds after fitting tyres and riding them.

    Like everyone I'd like to know the make and model just to see if they are all like that though.


    Fulcrum wind dB 40
    Lapierre Aircode 300
    Merida
  • gubber12345
    gubber12345 Posts: 493
    DeVlaeminck said:

    It wouldn't bother me so long as I knew they were structurally sound.

    I certainly don't think there's a case for rejecting them on cosmetic grounds after fitting tyres and riding them.

    Like everyone I'd like to know the make and model just to see if they are all like that though.


    Fulcrum wind dB 40
    pangolin said:

    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    First piccie looks fine second is a crack as far as I can see - its jagged and different depths, no?

    Anyhow, if they are new and 500k they should be covered under warranty, so send 'em back.

    It'll be made from pre-preg. It is a void, not a crack.

    Have all the people who are advocating sending it back because it looks ugly missed that the OP has spent at least 25 hours riding them?
    He also said they're responsible for 500 deaths which suggests they are not up to scratch.
    gubber12345 said:


    The marks are on both wheels and are completely smooth and no cracking of lacquer...was thinking it was just the lay up of the carbon and have done 500 kills on them but the big looking crack has me a bit scared of it tbh...have contacted the retailer about it and they have asked for them back for an inspection so see what happens then....although I won't ever have confidence in them if they don't/won't replace them


    Obviously a spellcheck....miles it should be
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    Merida
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    I reckon those are Fulcrum Wind db 40s
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MattFalle said:

    I reckon those are Fulcrum Wind db 40s

    Might be worth repeating that, just to be on the safe side...
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    I reckon those are Fulcrum Wind db40s
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MattFalle said:

    I reckon those are Fulcrum Wind db40s


    What was that..?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Obermayers, deffo.

    I'd lay Rick Chaseys reputation on it.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Well, I guess happy ending and case resolved. What’s next?
    left the forum March 2023
  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 2,127
    Obermayers, deffo.


    Nah, I think they are Enve's. Not sure though, the OP hasn't confirmed yet....
  • trevor.hall12
    trevor.hall12 Posts: 496
    edited May 2022
    Have we decided if they are Zipp or Reynolds then ?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    If they're falling apart then can only be Hunts, surely?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • redvision
    redvision Posts: 2,958
    MattFalle said:

    If they're falling apart then can only be Hunts, surely?

    Don't forget they're disc brakes MF! :D

    Op I don't think you have anything to worry about. If they've gone back to the manufacturer then they will either replace them if there is a fault, otherwise you will get them back and can ride them with confidence knowing the line is just superficial.

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