Wiggins

DeVlaeminck
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,607
    Swimming, gymnastics, football, cycling. My guess is every sport where these bastards had access to young kids without parents present, away from homes.

    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    gweeds said:

    Swimming, gymnastics, football, cycling. My guess is every sport where these bastards had access to young kids without parents present, away from homes.

    Not just sport. Church, school, scouts and any organisation that deals with kids.
  • Swimming had its own horror story circa 30 years ago (google "Paul Hickson swimming coach") and introduced some quite onerous procedures re kids in the care of any adult at galas and training camps etc. as a result. The "grooming" side of things appears - mercifully - to have been addressed, though issues remain re coaches emotionally abusing kids to train harder and "fat-shaming" to further their coaching CVs, which though decidedly non-ideal are relatively easy to overcome.

    The balance may have tilted a little too far on the side of caution though. My Good Lady is CRBd etc. to be able to work with kids in a medical context but she's still considered incompetent re keeping her own children safe at a gala and is required to hand them over to the care of the coach who has done a few "safeguarding" courses but doesn't have any kids of his own and the "life skills" that come with that. (Coach is a great guy though, and is routinely terrorised by the teenage girls in his squad!)
  • 50x11
    50x11 Posts: 408
    Happened wide scale in sport, and thankfully people are gettin justice. A football club in Scotland has just recently been told by a judge they will need to pay out to victims of a wide spread ring in their club that they helped cover up and reemployed sacked staff.

    What ever victims want as justice shou;d be served.
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,102

    How did Sir Bradley manage to go bust? He hints at dubious professional advisors.

    I wonder how bothered he is about his medals being sold off? He said that cycling is in the past for him.

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  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,776

    I'm not sure how these things work. Will he affect him personally to the extent he has to sell his own possessions? I thought bankruptcy was a business strategy, ?

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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,051

    Press talked about selling his medals but whether that is just sensationalism who knows.

    It's his business and not mine but I admit to being interested as to where his money has gone. If he really is personally having to start from scratch I don't know if being Bradley Wiggins has much earning potential now ?

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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,169

    One of the reports I read said he might even have to sell his SPOTY award. While I can see that an olympic medal might fetch a bit, I can't imaging a second hand SPOTY trophy fetching much.

  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,776

    I’d have thought he’d be a shoe in for a Discovery race commentator/pundit if he were minded to do it. No idea what that pays though …

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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227

    Brad did do a sesh on the motorbike following the race peloton for Eurosport some years back, if I remember right. And he did have a cycling podcast, long gone. Didn't he go a bit... off... something, was it boxing 🤔 he wanted to take up?

    To me he never did seem fully switched on brainwise, so mayhap the 'consultants' and 'advisors' screwed him over big time financially and he didn't realise until way too late? Sad.

  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,941

    You've got to be some piece of work to buy a medal or trophy from someone down on their luck.

  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,776

    He amassed a massive collection of historic cycling jerseys and stuff so I reckon he'll have a lot of things to sell before he gets down to his own medals?

    I recall him opening a spin gym place with his wife years ago, a unit fully kitted out with bikes and equipment ... you can see how money gets burned through, I guess.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,306

    If you've got compassion and money buy it and give it back to them.

    My friend had an acrimonious divorce from a fairly well know athlete and ended up chucking his world and Olympic medals in the skip with other possessions. Not sure if he picked them up from there in the end.

  • MidlandsGrimpeur2
    MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 1,984
    edited June 11

    It was Wiggins himself so he entered into an Individual Voluntary Arrangement (IVA) in order to stave off bankruptcy. You essentially come up with an agreement to pay back your Creditor's and the whole process is run by an Insolvency Practitioner (IP). You will always be given a set time to pay the money back (you are only usually allowed an IVA if you have considerable assets such as property to sell). If you can't pay it back you get declared bankrupt, as is happening to Wiggins.

    If it is true that he has been too trusting of advisors that is sad to hear, but unfortunately if you trust people to run things in your name and is goes badly wrong, you have to accept that you cop all the blame for it.

    I am not 100% certain of the process, but all this talk of his prized possessions sounds inaccurate to me. He would likely have to have agreed any assets that could be sold with the IP under the terms of his IVA (I know he had a property included as part of this). I would assume he did not include things like medals, jerseys etc. Like I said, not 100% certain, but I would suspect he can't be forced to sell these if not included in his original IVA.

  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,707

    My daughter had one of her cycling jerseys signed by Wiggins back in his heyday. It's nicely framed and hanging on her wall.

    She's NOT selling it and giving him the money.


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,814

    I have a poster from the Tour of Britain in 2004, signed by Wiggins, Hugh Porter, Phill Liggett and the late, great David Duffield.

    It's one of my prized possessions and I'm not selling it

  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,102

    Yes, the only reason would be to return them to the rightful holder.

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