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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    edited December 2021

    dabber said:

    I suspect that Bradley might be more than capable of putting most (all?) of the BR posters to shame even at his current weight.
    David Moncoutie (aged 46) recently rode through the area of France in which we have a house and demolished all of the KOMs, not just by a few seconds but by massive amounts.
    These guys are usually in a totally different league to most of us even when they age a bit.

    Yes, but Wiggins wasn’t a natural climber… he had to get thin beyond belief to be able to stay with the best. He was 70 kg in 2012, he’s now over 90 for sure. At the time his FTP was probably around 6 W/kg, now it’s probably 4 if not less… which is a decent club rider level.
    On a track I am sure he can still do some numbers

    I think the main thing to bear in mind is that after retiring with multiple world and olympic titles on road and track, he probably couldn't give a flying sh11t what some random amateur mamil thinks of him. No offence.

    As others have mentioned, he'd probably still kick your ar5e now, regardless of what you think his w/kg might be.

    Merry xmas.

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644



    Post a picture of yourself, for comparison...

    I looked hard but couldn't find any with a bare chest in the sun... but here's how 65kg look like... ;)


    not sure thats something to be proud of tbh.

    i was 69kg when proper racing at 6'2 - looked and felt like shitall the time.

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338

    dabber said:

    I suspect that Bradley might be more than capable of putting most (all?) of the BR posters to shame even at his current weight.
    David Moncoutie (aged 46) recently rode through the area of France in which we have a house and demolished all of the KOMs, not just by a few seconds but by massive amounts.
    These guys are usually in a totally different league to most of us even when they age a bit.

    Yes, but Wiggins wasn’t a natural climber… he had to get thin beyond belief to be able to stay with the best. He was 70 kg in 2012, he’s now over 90 for sure. At the time his FTP was probably around 6 W/kg, now it’s probably 4 if not less… which is a decent club rider level.
    On a track I am sure he can still do some numbers


    ...and you are a natural climber?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    tbh, my viewpoint on it is thst unless you are being paid to not eat nice food, drink nice wine and always be cold, hungry and unattractive, what's the point?

    Carol ain't gonna snog ya for coming 10th in ashitty Thursday night crit....
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,310
    edited December 2021
    joe2019 said:

    dabber said:

    I suspect that Bradley might be more than capable of putting most (all?) of the BR posters to shame even at his current weight.
    David Moncoutie (aged 46) recently rode through the area of France in which we have a house and demolished all of the KOMs, not just by a few seconds but by massive amounts.
    These guys are usually in a totally different league to most of us even when they age a bit.

    Yes, but Wiggins wasn’t a natural climber… he had to get thin beyond belief to be able to stay with the best. He was 70 kg in 2012, he’s now over 90 for sure. At the time his FTP was probably around 6 W/kg, now it’s probably 4 if not less… which is a decent club rider level.
    On a track I am sure he can still do some numbers


    ...and you are a natural climber?
    Let’s say that I am better up a climb than I am at time trialling or at a sprint… wiggins was better at time trialling and had to work at keeping up with the climbers

    In October I was ranked 215 in CTT hill climbs and around 2700 in time trialling, so that gives you an idea… there are probably 3-4 times more riders in TT, but still…

    left the forum March 2023
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,103
    I'd actually take either version of Wiggins' build - maybe not the full on Tour winner as that's a bit too skinny but I could live with the track version which would still be very lean for an amateur rider and be a lot faster than I am on climbs - or the 2021 version with a decent amount of muscle for someone who isn't a natural mesomorph.

    The latter looks better but as I'm not often trying to snog Carol or get into fights the cyclist version would probably be more useful.
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    joe2019 said:

    dabber said:

    I suspect that Bradley might be more than capable of putting most (all?) of the BR posters to shame even at his current weight.
    David Moncoutie (aged 46) recently rode through the area of France in which we have a house and demolished all of the KOMs, not just by a few seconds but by massive amounts.
    These guys are usually in a totally different league to most of us even when they age a bit.

    Yes, but Wiggins wasn’t a natural climber… he had to get thin beyond belief to be able to stay with the best. He was 70 kg in 2012, he’s now over 90 for sure. At the time his FTP was probably around 6 W/kg, now it’s probably 4 if not less… which is a decent club rider level.
    On a track I am sure he can still do some numbers


    ...and you are a natural climber?
    Let’s say that I am better up a climb than I am at time trialling or at a sprint… wiggins was better at time trialling and had to work at keeping up with the climbers

    In October I was ranked 215 in CTT hill climbs and around 2700 in time trialling, so that gives you an idea… there are probably 3-4 times more riders in TT, but still…

    Are you deliberately trying to embarrass yourself here..?
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338

    joe2019 said:

    dabber said:

    I suspect that Bradley might be more than capable of putting most (all?) of the BR posters to shame even at his current weight.
    David Moncoutie (aged 46) recently rode through the area of France in which we have a house and demolished all of the KOMs, not just by a few seconds but by massive amounts.
    These guys are usually in a totally different league to most of us even when they age a bit.

    Yes, but Wiggins wasn’t a natural climber… he had to get thin beyond belief to be able to stay with the best. He was 70 kg in 2012, he’s now over 90 for sure. At the time his FTP was probably around 6 W/kg, now it’s probably 4 if not less… which is a decent club rider level.
    On a track I am sure he can still do some numbers


    ...and you are a natural climber?
    Let’s say that I am better up a climb than I am at time trialling or at a sprint… wiggins was better at time trialling and had to work at keeping up with the climbers

    In October I was ranked 215 in CTT hill climbs and around 2700 in time trialling, so that gives you an idea… there are probably 3-4 times more riders in TT, but still…


    To be fair, he wouldn't have to work to keep up with you.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    MattFalle said:



    Post a picture of yourself, for comparison...

    I looked hard but couldn't find any with a bare chest in the sun... but here's how 65kg look like... ;)


    not sure thats something to be proud of tbh.

    i was 69kg when proper racing at 6'2 - looked and felt like shitall the time.

    And now you’ve given up racing you’re 5’6” and 88kg but you look and feel amazing. Or so I’m told…
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited December 2021

    joe2019 said:

    dabber said:

    I suspect that Bradley might be more than capable of putting most (all?) of the BR posters to shame even at his current weight.
    David Moncoutie (aged 46) recently rode through the area of France in which we have a house and demolished all of the KOMs, not just by a few seconds but by massive amounts.
    These guys are usually in a totally different league to most of us even when they age a bit.

    Yes, but Wiggins wasn’t a natural climber… he had to get thin beyond belief to be able to stay with the best. He was 70 kg in 2012, he’s now over 90 for sure. At the time his FTP was probably around 6 W/kg, now it’s probably 4 if not less… which is a decent club rider level.
    On a track I am sure he can still do some numbers


    ...and you are a natural climber?
    Let’s say that I am better up a climb than I am at time trialling or at a sprint… wiggins was better at time trialling and had to work at keeping up with the climbers

    In October I was ranked 215 in CTT hill climbs and around 2700 in time trialling, so that gives you an idea… there are probably 3-4 times more riders in TT, but still…

    TdF winner and multiple Olympic gold winner with a whole life dedicated to to sport and a whooooole lot of natural talent vs Ugo who works in a post office.


    I'm kinda cocksure but I'll lay a fiver on someone and it ain't Ugo....
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,813
    Should we set up some sort of Crowdfunder to send Ugo to the Isle of Wight to see if he can beat Wiggins?
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,651
    MattFalle said:

    joe2019 said:

    dabber said:

    I suspect that Bradley might be more than capable of putting most (all?) of the BR posters to shame even at his current weight.
    David Moncoutie (aged 46) recently rode through the area of France in which we have a house and demolished all of the KOMs, not just by a few seconds but by massive amounts.
    These guys are usually in a totally different league to most of us even when they age a bit.

    Yes, but Wiggins wasn’t a natural climber… he had to get thin beyond belief to be able to stay with the best. He was 70 kg in 2012, he’s now over 90 for sure. At the time his FTP was probably around 6 W/kg, now it’s probably 4 if not less… which is a decent club rider level.
    On a track I am sure he can still do some numbers


    ...and you are a natural climber?
    Let’s say that I am better up a climb than I am at time trialling or at a sprint… wiggins was better at time trialling and had to work at keeping up with the climbers

    In October I was ranked 215 in CTT hill climbs and around 2700 in time trialling, so that gives you an idea… there are probably 3-4 times more riders in TT, but still…

    TdF winner and multiple Olympic gold winner with a whole life dedicated to to sport and a whooooole lot of natural talent vs Ugo who works in a post office.


    I'm kinda cocksure but I'll lay* a fiver on someone and it ain't Ugo....
    *bet
    lay to lose, bet to win.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    i think i'll win.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Rebellin is the real deal…
    left the forum March 2023
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited December 2021
    i still think, for some reason, a TdF winning, multiple Olympic gold winning dude may just crush you on a ride in the IoW. Slightly.

    Not sure why, maybe just a hunch. Call it doctor's itch if you will.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited December 2021





    Ctually, call it a tenner on wiggins

    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    joe2019 said:

    dabber said:

    I suspect that Bradley might be more than capable of putting most (all?) of the BR posters to shame even at his current weight.
    David Moncoutie (aged 46) recently rode through the area of France in which we have a house and demolished all of the KOMs, not just by a few seconds but by massive amounts.
    These guys are usually in a totally different league to most of us even when they age a bit.

    Yes, but Wiggins wasn’t a natural climber… he had to get thin beyond belief to be able to stay with the best. He was 70 kg in 2012, he’s now over 90 for sure. At the time his FTP was probably around 6 W/kg, now it’s probably 4 if not less… which is a decent club rider level.
    On a track I am sure he can still do some numbers


    ...and you are a natural climber?
    Let’s say that I am better up a climb than I am at time trialling or at a sprint… wiggins was better at time trialling and had to work at keeping up with the climbers

    In October I was ranked 215 in CTT hill climbs and around 2700 in time trialling, so that gives you an idea… there are probably 3-4 times more riders in TT, but still…

    Are you deliberately trying to embarrass yourself here..?
    i think his ego is writing cheques......
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • masjer
    masjer Posts: 2,651
    MattFalle said:






    Ctually, call it a tenner on wiggins

    This Wiggins fella looks (in print) that he might have some natural talent, but I notice many bronze and silver showing that he is easily beaten (a quitter).
    My money is on Ugo.
  • Do veteran standards apply?
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  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,783
    I recall reading that there was a tour of the Isle of Wight last summer with a group of ex UK National Champions - Wiggins, Blythe, Stannard, Yates and Stephens. One of them wrote on Twitter that Wiggins still crushed them all.
    I reckon he’s still got some to give.
    2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner
  • What’s this obsession with the Isle of Wight anyway?
    left the forum March 2023
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,292

    What’s this obsession with the Isle of Wight anyway?

    Not sure about obsession but it is a nice place to ride a bike.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pblakeney said:

    What’s this obsession with the Isle of Wight anyway?

    Not sure about obsession but it is a nice place to ride a bike.
    I agree, but not sure what makes it such a bucket list location… I mean around Ventnor is nice, but Down lane is pretty much the only climb on the Island
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,292
    You can’t sell nice.
    It had to be bucket list for the price.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.