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Here we go again !!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9956075/Middlesbrough-defender-Marc-Bola-charged-aggravated-misconduct-tweet-wrote-aged-14.html

Have no idea what he is supposed to have said and don't care .
I am reading "The Third Reich in power" at the moment .
Should be required reading for the FA and all who support this .
regards
ILG

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  • imposter2.0imposter2.0 Posts: 11,365
    You can always rely on the FA to focus on what really matters.

    England team racially abused by Hungarian fans? "It's fine"
    Nine year old tweet posted by a 13 year old? "We can't have that"
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 22,949
    This is like Cake Stop Right Wing Bingo...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • imposter2.0imposter2.0 Posts: 11,365
    edited 4 September
    ddraver said:

    This is like Cake Stop Right Wing Bingo...

    Did you mean to post that on the GB News thread.?
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 46,534
    'Cake Stop' and 'right wing' are two phrases you don't often hear in the same sentence.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 22,949
    We had a discussion on this last month and proved the precise opposite...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 46,534
    ddraver said:

    We had a discussion on this last month and proved the precise opposite...

    Proof you say? Got a link?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ProssPross Posts: 28,986
    ddraver said:

    This is like Cake Stop Right Wing Bingo...

    Not sure it's right wing to suggest they should put their efforts into sorting things out now rather than going after someone who said something stupid as a young teenager nearly a decade ago. Low hanging fruit springs to mind.
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 22,949
    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    We had a discussion on this last month and proved the precise opposite...

    Proof you say? Got a link?


    You were there - find it yerself
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 46,534
    ddraver said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    We had a discussion on this last month and proved the precise opposite...

    Proof you say? Got a link?


    You were there - find it yerself
    Don't remember it. You're trying to make the point so back it up, or you have no point. But that's probably not new ;)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 46,534
    Pross said:

    ddraver said:

    This is like Cake Stop Right Wing Bingo...

    Not sure it's right wing to suggest they should put their efforts into sorting things out now rather than going after someone who said something stupid as a young teenager nearly a decade ago. Low hanging fruit springs to mind.
    A lot of things look right wing from the perspective of a leftie.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpetbriantrumpet Posts: 7,260
    Stevo_666 said:

    Pross said:

    ddraver said:

    This is like Cake Stop Right Wing Bingo...

    Not sure it's right wing to suggest they should put their efforts into sorting things out now rather than going after someone who said something stupid as a young teenager nearly a decade ago. Low hanging fruit springs to mind.
    A lot of things look right wing from the perspective of a leftie.

    Apart from one or two, most of the most active posters on here seem to hold many 'right wing' views (free markets, etc), and are in decently paid management or consultancy-type jobs, and many of them voted for Thatcher, IIRC. I think you might be confusing a dislike of Johnson and his party of incompetents with being a 'leftie'.

    How would you define a 'leftie'?
  • ddraverddraver Posts: 22,949
    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    We had a discussion on this last month and proved the precise opposite...

    Proof you say? Got a link?


    You were there - find it yerself
    Don't remember it. You're trying to make the point so back it up, or you have no point. But that's probably not new ;)

    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • imposter2.0imposter2.0 Posts: 11,365
    Stevo_666 said:



    A lot of things look right wing from the perspective of a leftie.

    Just wondering - is the opposite of 'leftie' a 'rightie'..?

  • ilovegraceilovegrace Posts: 660
    So , do we think someone should be hauled over the coals for something they said on social media at 14 years old , or not ?
    Not left or right just morally right or wrong.
    Love
    ILG
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 46,534
    ddraver said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    We had a discussion on this last month and proved the precise opposite...

    Proof you say? Got a link?


    You were there - find it yerself
    Don't remember it. You're trying to make the point so back it up, or you have no point. But that's probably not new ;)

    You have no point: if this was 'proved', you'd just post a link. Fail.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 46,534

    Stevo_666 said:



    A lot of things look right wing from the perspective of a leftie.

    Just wondering - is the opposite of 'leftie' a 'rightie'..?

    Could be.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 46,534

    Stevo_666 said:

    Pross said:

    ddraver said:

    This is like Cake Stop Right Wing Bingo...

    Not sure it's right wing to suggest they should put their efforts into sorting things out now rather than going after someone who said something stupid as a young teenager nearly a decade ago. Low hanging fruit springs to mind.
    A lot of things look right wing from the perspective of a leftie.

    Apart from one or two, most of the most active posters on here seem to hold many 'right wing' views (free markets, etc), and are in decently paid management or consultancy-type jobs, and many of them voted for Thatcher, IIRC. I think you might be confusing a dislike of Johnson and his party of incompetents with being a 'leftie'.

    How would you define a 'leftie'?
    I think we can start with ddraver based on his first post on here and subsequent failure to back up his case :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpetbriantrumpet Posts: 7,260
    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Pross said:

    ddraver said:

    This is like Cake Stop Right Wing Bingo...

    Not sure it's right wing to suggest they should put their efforts into sorting things out now rather than going after someone who said something stupid as a young teenager nearly a decade ago. Low hanging fruit springs to mind.
    A lot of things look right wing from the perspective of a leftie.

    Apart from one or two, most of the most active posters on here seem to hold many 'right wing' views (free markets, etc), and are in decently paid management or consultancy-type jobs, and many of them voted for Thatcher, IIRC. I think you might be confusing a dislike of Johnson and his party of incompetents with being a 'leftie'.

    How would you define a 'leftie'?
    I think we can start with ddraver based on his first post on here and subsequent failure to back up his case :)

    I think that could be defined as avoiding the question. You keep on claiming that CS is a leftie bastion, but I see a lot of reasonably comfortably-off, generally right-of-centre, one-time Thatcher-voting middle aged males... not the stuff of revolution.

    I've no idea what your idea of right wing is, other than supporting the Johnson rabble in parliament, and claiming that there's no point in analysing what's wrong with the Brexit agreement. Everything else you seem to think is left wing. Well, I suppose it is a definition, but not a very robust one.
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Pross said:

    ddraver said:

    This is like Cake Stop Right Wing Bingo...

    Not sure it's right wing to suggest they should put their efforts into sorting things out now rather than going after someone who said something stupid as a young teenager nearly a decade ago. Low hanging fruit springs to mind.
    A lot of things look right wing from the perspective of a leftie.

    Apart from one or two, most of the most active posters on here seem to hold many 'right wing' views (free markets, etc), and are in decently paid management or consultancy-type jobs, and many of them voted for Thatcher, IIRC. I think you might be confusing a dislike of Johnson and his party of incompetents with being a 'leftie'.

    How would you define a 'leftie'?
    I think we can start with ddraver based on his first post on here and subsequent failure to back up his case :)

    I think that could be defined as avoiding the question. You keep on claiming that CS is a leftie bastion, but I see a lot of reasonably comfortably-off, generally right-of-centre, one-time Thatcher-voting middle aged males... not the stuff of revolution.

    I've no idea what your idea of right wing is, other than supporting the Johnson rabble in parliament, and claiming that there's no point in analysing what's wrong with the Brexit agreement. Everything else you seem to think is left wing. Well, I suppose it is a definition, but not a very robust one.
    In what way is Bojo right wing? his policies are on a par with Ed Miliband. If Corbyn wore a blue rosette it would not make him right wing.

    Right wing and left wing are all subjective. To me Steveo is leftwing as he believes in high taxation and spending topped up with colossal borrowing.
  • elbowlohelbowloh Posts: 6,780
    Based on the there thread title and the timing, really thought was going to be about the ABBA comeback records and virtual tour.
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  • briantrumpetbriantrumpet Posts: 7,260
    edited 4 September

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Pross said:

    ddraver said:

    This is like Cake Stop Right Wing Bingo...

    Not sure it's right wing to suggest they should put their efforts into sorting things out now rather than going after someone who said something stupid as a young teenager nearly a decade ago. Low hanging fruit springs to mind.
    A lot of things look right wing from the perspective of a leftie.

    Apart from one or two, most of the most active posters on here seem to hold many 'right wing' views (free markets, etc), and are in decently paid management or consultancy-type jobs, and many of them voted for Thatcher, IIRC. I think you might be confusing a dislike of Johnson and his party of incompetents with being a 'leftie'.

    How would you define a 'leftie'?
    I think we can start with ddraver based on his first post on here and subsequent failure to back up his case :)

    I think that could be defined as avoiding the question. You keep on claiming that CS is a leftie bastion, but I see a lot of reasonably comfortably-off, generally right-of-centre, one-time Thatcher-voting middle aged males... not the stuff of revolution.

    I've no idea what your idea of right wing is, other than supporting the Johnson rabble in parliament, and claiming that there's no point in analysing what's wrong with the Brexit agreement. Everything else you seem to think is left wing. Well, I suppose it is a definition, but not a very robust one.
    In what way is Bojo right wing? his policies are on a par with Ed Miliband. If Corbyn wore a blue rosette it would not make him right wing.

    Right wing and left wing are all subjective. To me Steveo is leftwing as he believes in high taxation and spending topped up with colossal borrowing.

    I agree, I don't think Johnson is, but that seems to be part of Stevo's definition, in a similar way to how the Republican Party is defining its right-wingness by agreeing with whatever Trump says, rather than any political principles.
  • elbowlohelbowloh Posts: 6,780
    Johnson seems to be quite right wing in some of the views he spouted in his writings in the telegraph.

    Having said that, it seems his views depend very much on either

    a) who's paying him (e.g. Telegraph)
    b) which ever way the wind is blowing and is the best bet for him getting power (e.g. flip flopping on Brexit and having a pro and and against article for Brexit at the ready).

    He's not a man of conviction, he's a populist.
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    Felt Z6 2012
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    Tall....
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  • imposter2.0imposter2.0 Posts: 11,365

    So , do we think someone should be hauled over the coals for something they said on social media at 14 years old , or not ?
    Not left or right just morally right or wrong.
    Love
    ILG

    Bola should probably address the issue and hopefully put the record straight - assuming his views have changed. If his views haven't changed, then there's a potential issue. Apologise and move on.
  • elbowloh said:

    Johnson seems to be quite right wing in some of the views he spouted in his writings in the telegraph.

    Having said that, it seems his views depend very much on either

    a) who's paying him (e.g. Telegraph)
    b) which ever way the wind is blowing and is the best bet for him getting power (e.g. flip flopping on Brexit and having a pro and and against article for Brexit at the ready).

    He's not a man of conviction, he's a populist.

    Judge him by his actions- he was running a £60bn budget deficit pre-Covid, putting up taxes, interfering in the markets wherever possible, increasing barriers to trade. Big infrastructure projects.

    Take the rosette off and he is to the left of Brown. I accept that given time Brown would probably have shown his true colours but so far Boris is totally out socialisting him.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 56,696 Lives Here

    elbowloh said:

    Johnson seems to be quite right wing in some of the views he spouted in his writings in the telegraph.

    Having said that, it seems his views depend very much on either

    a) who's paying him (e.g. Telegraph)
    b) which ever way the wind is blowing and is the best bet for him getting power (e.g. flip flopping on Brexit and having a pro and and against article for Brexit at the ready).

    He's not a man of conviction, he's a populist.

    Judge him by his actions- he was running a £60bn budget deficit pre-Covid, putting up taxes, interfering in the markets wherever possible, increasing barriers to trade. Big infrastructure projects.

    Take the rosette off and he is to the left of Brown. I accept that given time Brown would probably have shown his true colours but so far Boris is totally out socialisting him.
    One day you will come round to my idea that there is a new left right and it is not to do with attitudes towards tax and spend.
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 46,534

    Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Pross said:

    ddraver said:

    This is like Cake Stop Right Wing Bingo...

    Not sure it's right wing to suggest they should put their efforts into sorting things out now rather than going after someone who said something stupid as a young teenager nearly a decade ago. Low hanging fruit springs to mind.
    A lot of things look right wing from the perspective of a leftie.

    Apart from one or two, most of the most active posters on here seem to hold many 'right wing' views (free markets, etc), and are in decently paid management or consultancy-type jobs, and many of them voted for Thatcher, IIRC. I think you might be confusing a dislike of Johnson and his party of incompetents with being a 'leftie'.

    How would you define a 'leftie'?
    I think we can start with ddraver based on his first post on here and subsequent failure to back up his case :)

    I think that could be defined as avoiding the question. You keep on claiming that CS is a leftie bastion, but I see a lot of reasonably comfortably-off, generally right-of-centre, one-time Thatcher-voting middle aged males... not the stuff of revolution.

    I've no idea what your idea of right wing is, other than supporting the Johnson rabble in parliament, and claiming that there's no point in analysing what's wrong with the Brexit agreement. Everything else you seem to think is left wing. Well, I suppose it is a definition, but not a very robust one.
    I think you're trying to have a sensible conversation where I'm not that fussed. It was more about giving ddr a metaphorical slap for being an arris.

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • elbowloh said:

    Johnson seems to be quite right wing in some of the views he spouted in his writings in the telegraph.

    Having said that, it seems his views depend very much on either

    a) who's paying him (e.g. Telegraph)
    b) which ever way the wind is blowing and is the best bet for him getting power (e.g. flip flopping on Brexit and having a pro and and against article for Brexit at the ready).

    He's not a man of conviction, he's a populist.

    Judge him by his actions- he was running a £60bn budget deficit pre-Covid, putting up taxes, interfering in the markets wherever possible, increasing barriers to trade. Big infrastructure projects.

    Take the rosette off and he is to the left of Brown. I accept that given time Brown would probably have shown his true colours but so far Boris is totally out socialisting him.
    One day you will come round to my idea that there is a new left right and it is not to do with attitudes towards tax and spend.
    I see this as a temporary Brexit blip that will soon end with the unwinding of the unholy alliance.
  • JezyboyJezyboy Posts: 914

    elbowloh said:

    Johnson seems to be quite right wing in some of the views he spouted in his writings in the telegraph.

    Having said that, it seems his views depend very much on either

    a) who's paying him (e.g. Telegraph)
    b) which ever way the wind is blowing and is the best bet for him getting power (e.g. flip flopping on Brexit and having a pro and and against article for Brexit at the ready).

    He's not a man of conviction, he's a populist.

    Judge him by his actions- he was running a £60bn budget deficit pre-Covid, putting up taxes, interfering in the markets wherever possible, increasing barriers to trade. Big infrastructure projects.

    Take the rosette off and he is to the left of Brown. I accept that given time Brown would probably have shown his true colours but so far Boris is totally out socialisting him.
    One day you will come round to my idea that there is a new left right and it is not to do with attitudes towards tax and spend.
    I see this as a temporary Brexit blip that will soon end with the unwinding of the unholy alliance.
    Where is there an alliance? Bojo has mostly purged the old school Conservatives.
  • Jezyboy said:

    elbowloh said:

    Johnson seems to be quite right wing in some of the views he spouted in his writings in the telegraph.

    Having said that, it seems his views depend very much on either

    a) who's paying him (e.g. Telegraph)
    b) which ever way the wind is blowing and is the best bet for him getting power (e.g. flip flopping on Brexit and having a pro and and against article for Brexit at the ready).

    He's not a man of conviction, he's a populist.

    Judge him by his actions- he was running a £60bn budget deficit pre-Covid, putting up taxes, interfering in the markets wherever possible, increasing barriers to trade. Big infrastructure projects.

    Take the rosette off and he is to the left of Brown. I accept that given time Brown would probably have shown his true colours but so far Boris is totally out socialisting him.
    One day you will come round to my idea that there is a new left right and it is not to do with attitudes towards tax and spend.
    I see this as a temporary Brexit blip that will soon end with the unwinding of the unholy alliance.
    Where is there an alliance? Bojo has mostly purged the old school Conservatives.
    They'll be back, and in greater numbers....
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