La Vuelta 2021 - Pre race information and General Chat

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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    djaps.5 said:

    Quest are showing highlights,11pm on Saturday,and 7pm on Monday and Tuesday,/The TV schedule only shows 7 days in advance.

    Good spot. That's saved me GCN renewal until the spring.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    VUELTA A ESPAÑA 2021 ODDS (WINNER - ODDSCHECKER)

    Primož Roglič (Slo) Team Jumbo-Visma, 11/10
    Egan Bernal (Col) Ineos Grenadiers, 11/2
    Richard Carapaz (Ecu) Ineos Grenadiers, 9/1
    Adam Yates (GBr) Ineos Grenadiers, 16/1
    Mikel Landa (Esp) Team Bahrain Victorious, 18/1
    Hugh Carthy (GBr) EF Education-Nippo, 20/1
    Miguel Ángel López (Col) Movistar Team, 22/1
    Enric Mas (Esp) Movistar Team, 28/1
    Aleksandr Vlasov (Rus) Astana-Premier Tech, 33/1
    Pavel Sivakov (Rus) Ineos Grenadiers, 33/1
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    blazing_saddles said:

    Temperatures for the opening weekend forecast to go above 40C.
    Not good news.
    Early better news involving flat stages 2 and 4. Both currently have fresh cross/tailwinds forecast. (SW 3-4, NE4)

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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    Nothing to do with Vuelta but...

    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    edited August 2021
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Temperatures for the opening weekend forecast to go above 40C.
    Not good news.
    Early better news involving flat stages 2 and 4. Both currently have fresh cross/tailwinds forecast. (SW 3-4, NE4)

    So I did a quick copy and paste of the text into Google for a translation.

    "So that you can get an idea of ​​the hell we will have, maximums planned for Saturday, with air subsidence which means deactivating marinades, or explain the danger of fire that we will have, I hope we are lucky and people are aware of the situation"

    Deactivate Marinades??! Anyone able to provide a more context based translation for those of us who still struggle with our native language, let along mangling someone elses.

    EDIT: Or is it right and marinades need to be deactivated or really bad things will happen?
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    JimD666 said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Temperatures for the opening weekend forecast to go above 40C.
    Not good news.
    Early better news involving flat stages 2 and 4. Both currently have fresh cross/tailwinds forecast. (SW 3-4, NE4)

    So I did a quick copy and paste of the text into Google for a translation.

    "So that you can get an idea of ​​the hell we will have, maximums planned for Saturday, with air subsidence which means deactivating marinades, or explain the danger of fire that we will have, I hope we are lucky and people are aware of the situation"

    Deactivate Marinades??! Anyone able to provide a more context based translation for those of us who still struggle with our native language, let along mangling someone elses.

    EDIT: Or is it right and marinades need to be deactivated or really bad things will happen?
    I think deactivate marinades is correct. In 40+C temperatures there's a huge fire risk, so bbq is definitely out, and any serious bbq aficionado would be activating the marinade about now.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    I see that Caleb Ewan has disappeared from PCS's startlist.
    With all these flat sprint stages, it's starting to look like a DQS and Fabio Jakobsen benefit race. Really poor turn out from the sprinters. Perhaps it's the lure of the ENECO Tour or whatever it's called these days.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    blazing_saddles said:

    I see that Caleb Ewan has disappeared from PCS's startlist.
    With all these flat sprint stages, it's starting to look like a DQS and Fabio Jakobsen benefit race. Really poor turn out from the sprinters. Perhaps it's the lure of the ENECO Tour or whatever it's called these days.

    Isn't Demare there? Two horse race maybe.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    ddraver said:

    Nothing to do with Vuelta but...

    Amazing
    _
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    JimD666 said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    Temperatures for the opening weekend forecast to go above 40C.
    Not good news.
    Early better news involving flat stages 2 and 4. Both currently have fresh cross/tailwinds forecast. (SW 3-4, NE4)

    So I did a quick copy and paste of the text into Google for a translation.

    "So that you can get an idea of ​​the hell we will have, maximums planned for Saturday, with air subsidence which means deactivating marinades, or explain the danger of fire that we will have, I hope we are lucky and people are aware of the situation"

    Deactivate Marinades??! Anyone able to provide a more context based translation for those of us who still struggle with our native language, let along mangling someone elses.

    EDIT: Or is it right and marinades need to be deactivated or really bad things will happen?
    I think deactivate marinades is correct. In 40+C temperatures there's a huge fire risk, so bbq is definitely out, and any serious bbq aficionado would be activating the marinade about now.
    Boring answer - it’ll be that coloured fire retardant stuff they drop on forest fires.
    _
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    kingstongraham said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    I see that Caleb Ewan has disappeared from PCS's startlist.
    With all these flat sprint stages, it's starting to look like a DQS and Fabio Jakobsen benefit race. Really poor turn out from the sprinters. Perhaps it's the lure of the ENECO Tour or whatever it's called these days.

    Isn't Demare there? Two horse race maybe.
    Yes, I missed him, sorry.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    blazing_saddles said:

    kingstongraham said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    I see that Caleb Ewan has disappeared from PCS's startlist.
    With all these flat sprint stages, it's starting to look like a DQS and Fabio Jakobsen benefit race. Really poor turn out from the sprinters. Perhaps it's the lure of the ENECO Tour or whatever it's called these days.

    Isn't Demare there? Two horse race maybe.
    Yes, I missed him, sorry.
    Don't worry. I've picked Demare enough times in the past to know it is a one horse race. 😉
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    From multiple GT winner to rambler on a bike. Hell of a fall Chris.

    Those temperatures are insane for racing in. I don’t envy them at all.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    Was trying to find if the UCI had any set numbers (high or low) for the extreme weather protocol and failed. Is there any? Or do they just wait till the riders moan about it?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    JimD666 said:

    Was trying to find if the UCI had any set numbers (high or low) for the extreme weather protocol and failed. Is there any? Or do they just wait till the riders moan about it?

    I can't see there being a problem with the short, evening ITT.
    Sunday is the only really hot day, as there is a significant drop in temperatures next week.
    (probably due to me going there)
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    TBH it was more a general query, knowing how badly I handle the heat and exercise was intrigued as to what the UCI consider too hot/cold. Enjoy the trip 👍
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    pblakeney said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    kingstongraham said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    I see that Caleb Ewan has disappeared from PCS's startlist.
    With all these flat sprint stages, it's starting to look like a DQS and Fabio Jakobsen benefit race. Really poor turn out from the sprinters. Perhaps it's the lure of the ENECO Tour or whatever it's called these days.

    Isn't Demare there? Two horse race maybe.
    Yes, I missed him, sorry.
    Don't worry. I've picked Demare enough times in the past to know it is a one horse race. 😉
    No, it's two horses. There's Philipsen too.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    yorkshireraw said:

    No ITV4 coverage this year, which is a shame. The 1hr evening show is ideal when you can't catch the afternoon GCN / Eurosport Coverage.

    I'd rather ITV were showing this than the Dauphine earlier in the year, but guess 3 weeks is a big commitment in resources for relatively specialist viewing.

    That's sad
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    blazing_saddles said:

    JimD666 said:

    Was trying to find if the UCI had any set numbers (high or low) for the extreme weather protocol and failed. Is there any? Or do they just wait till the riders moan about it?

    I can't see there being a problem with the short, evening ITT.
    Sunday is the only really hot day, as there is a significant drop in temperatures next week.
    (probably due to me going there)
    Sounds ideal to me - 40c is not nice even on holiday...
  • thejimmymethod
    thejimmymethod Posts: 458
    Aru is retiring after the Vuelta
    https://teamqhubeka.com/celebrating-fabio-aru
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569
    So, has Carapaz got his Golden helmet sorted?
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    mrfpb said:

    So, has Carapaz got his Golden helmet sorted?

    He's got an orange bike
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    gsk82 said:

    mrfpb said:

    So, has Carapaz got his Golden helmet sorted?

    He's got an orange bike
    Weirdly they've given him a bronze bike.

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    Might not be the gold that you would expect but that is a damned fine looking bike.
    As far as squiggly Pinarellos go.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    kingstongraham said:


    Weirdly they've given him a bronze bike.

    He got bronze at the Tour and that's what Ineos care about.
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    pblakeney said:

    Might not be the gold that you would expect but that is a damned fine looking bike.
    As far as squiggly Pinarellos go.

    Didn't Wilier do some bikes with that kind of finish?
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    mrb123 said:

    pblakeney said:

    Might not be the gold that you would expect but that is a damned fine looking bike.
    As far as squiggly Pinarellos go.

    Didn't Wilier do some bikes with that kind of finish?


  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    mrb123 said:

    pblakeney said:

    Might not be the gold that you would expect but that is a damned fine looking bike.
    As far as squiggly Pinarellos go.

    Didn't Wilier do some bikes with that kind of finish?
    Apparently they did.
    My favourite paint job at the moment is the Treks but they look horrible in still photos compared to on TV though. 🤔

    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    pblakeney said:

    mrb123 said:

    pblakeney said:

    Might not be the gold that you would expect but that is a damned fine looking bike.
    As far as squiggly Pinarellos go.

    Didn't Wilier do some bikes with that kind of finish?
    Apparently they did.
    My favourite paint job at the moment is the Treks but they look horrible in still photos compared to on TV though. 🤔

    Those red Mondeos with massive white logos?!
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    I watched about 2 minutes of the team presentation this evening. Must have cost them all of 10 quid for the stage area and paying the acts.

    Hopefully I will have the first week's stages sorted, but after it's over to you all.
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