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Ineos must be stopped

zest28zest28 Posts: 388
edited June 2021 in Pro race
The financial unfair play in pro cycling has gotten really out of hand now.

Ineos is so stacked, they are bringing 4 leaders to the Tour De France this year while having benched other leaders such as Egan Bernal. And Ineos have also benched powerhouses like Ganna and Dennis to give an idea how stacked Ineos is.

If Pogacar again beats Ineos all by himself without team support like last year, Ineos should be ashamed really.
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  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,630
    Yes let's discourage sponsors from bringing money into the sport. Nice one.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 22,935
    I'll bite just for the sake of it.
    Richer teams being more successful is hardly new, or news.
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  • veronese68veronese68 Posts: 26,312 Lives Here
    pblakeney said:

    I'll bite just for the sake of it.
    Richer teams being more successful is hardly new, or news.

    Or unique to cycling
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 20,675
    zest28 said:



    If Pogacar again beats Ineos all by himself without team support like last year, Ineos should be ashamed really.

    Pogacar will have strong team support for this Tour.
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  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 6,123
    Stating Bernal, Ganna and Dennis are benched suggests they are fully GT fit and ignores the work they all did in the Giro.

    Did JV not have three GT leaders last year plus two of the best super-doms around?
  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 3,299
    Dorset_Boy said:

    Stating Bernal, Ganna and Dennis are benched suggests they are fully GT fit and ignores the work they all did in the Giro.

    Did JV not have three GT leaders last year plus two of the best super-doms around?

    They only had 1 really

    Looking like genuine contenders and being relevant towards the end would be a successful tour for Ineos. Finishing 3rd, 4th and 5th 3 minutes behind wouldn't be.
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  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 8,455
    Luckily Ineos don't have the best GC rider at the Tour or imo even the second best so them being stacked with top riders might actually make for a better race.

    What can really make for dull racing is when the best rider has the best team - something that naturally happens quite a lot.
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,747
    DeVlaeminck said:



    What can really make for dull racing is when the best rider has the best team - something that naturally happens quite a lot.


    But do those teams often appear to be the best because they have the best rider? Take winning Sky teams of the past and make Bardet or Kruijswijk (for example) the leader and are they the best team?
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  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 8,455
    No I think the best GC riders of an era more often than not do have a very strong set of domestiques.
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,747
    DeVlaeminck said:

    No I think the best GC riders of an era more often than not do have a very strong set of domestiques.


    Yes, this is true. But domestiques of a winning leader will always seem better than if they were with a leader coming in 7th.
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  • gweedsgweeds Posts: 2,469
    How do you know it’s TDF time?

    Because Zest28 posts yet another mad question.
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  • ProssPross Posts: 36,393
    gweeds said:

    How do you know it’s TDF time?

    Because Zest28 posts yet another mad question.

    To be fair Zest posts shite every time they post not just when it's near the Tour.
  • andyracandyrac Posts: 977
    Most of their opposition have had years and years of an advantage to get better, more lucrative sponsors - but unsurprisingly are stuck in a time warp. Why punish Ineos, and other well financed teams for managing to bring in big £$£$£$£ sponsors.

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  • darkhairedlorddarkhairedlord Posts: 7,179
    It's a global sport and the other teams need to pull in global sponsors. If the uci got their act together and dragged themselves out of the 1950s then they might attract them. But no, the keep womens cycling as an after thought at best.
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 14,671
    I kinda hope they don't run away with it tbh .
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  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 4,214
    Hopefully Ineos will sign Pogacar and send the OP into full meltdown.
  • phreakphreak Posts: 2,823
    mrb123 said:

    Hopefully Ineos will sign Pogacar and send the OP into full meltdown.

    When they signed Bernal, Sivakov, and a few other young riders in 2018 I think that was the plan - to hire the next big thing, and it looked like they had in Bernal, but it seems like Pogacar is the real deal.
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 14,671
    This thread title is like a B film title from the 1970s
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  • Lanterne_RogueLanterne_Rogue Posts: 3,764
    mididoctors said:

    This thread title is like a B film title from the 1970s

    Attack of the 56-tooth Chain Rings

    Anyone else want to pitch a cycling B-movie? Pretty sure the rest of this topic is dead.
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 20,675
    edited June 2021
    The Hateful Eight.
    (managed to keep on topic too!)
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  • amrushtonamrushton Posts: 1,206
    Turn the clock back and this thread title could be 'Eddie/Hinault/indurain/Armstrong must be stopped'. yet Pogace won in 2020 and Roglic won the Vuelta in 2019/20 so it isnt some runaway success for Ineos
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    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    mididoctors said:

    This thread title is like a B film title from the 1970s

    Attack of the 56-tooth Chain Rings

    Anyone else want to pitch a cycling B-movie? Pretty sure the rest of this topic is dead.
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  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 10,994
    edited June 2021
    I'd argue that Brailsford's teams have been very good for the sport - maybe not initially Sky, but other teams seemed to be slow to react.

    Ineos now seem to race with a bit more 'style' and it is very enjoyable to watch.
    Additionally I think this has pushed other teams to run a lot more professionally, and optimise everything they can - I can't see how that is a negative.

    Talking about benching X rider/s is irrelevant, all pro teams have large squads, and rotate them accordingly based on their season plan, and or fitness/form/fatigue.

    And this is aside from the fact that DQS, JV & UAE have had oodles of success over the last year or two, so Ineos are not winning everything by any means.

    I can see the Tour being very exciting this year, yes Ineos have a very strong team, but in my opinion they do not have the 1st or 2nd favourite for GC, so seeing whether their team can use tactics and planning to beat the stronger riders will be truly fascinating.
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