Giro d'Italia 2021

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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    I wonder who the Welsh speaking cycling pundit is - assuming they use one. I watched a football match on S4C and they used John Hartson.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    DeVlaeminck said:

    I wonder who the Welsh speaking cycling pundit is - assuming they use one. I watched a football match on S4C and they used John Hartson.

    Last year it was young trackie turned, roadie turned retired, (I think) Manon Lloyd.
    Her claim to fame is that as a young girl, she used to live next to my sister.
    Whether she qualifies as a cycling pundit is questionable.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    "Rhodri Gomer will lead the regular Seiclo team, with commentators Wyn Gruffydd, John Hardy and Gareth Rhys Owen being joined by team Ribble Weldtite rider Gruff Lewis, Dewi Owen and brothers, Rheinallt and Peredur ap Gwynedd."
  • singleton
    singleton Posts: 2,523
    blazing_saddles said:

    DeVlaeminck said:

    I wonder who the Welsh speaking cycling pundit is - assuming they use one. I watched a football match on S4C and they used John Hartson.

    Last year it was young trackie turned, roadie turned retired, (I think) Manon Lloyd.
    Her claim to fame is that as a young girl, she used to live next to my sister.
    Whether she qualifies as a cycling pundit is questionable.
    She's a GCN presenter, and gives a good account of herself on the bike as well as off.
  • flite
    flite Posts: 227
    I've really enjoyed watching events on S4C in recent years. It's easy to pick out the names of riders and teams, and the interviews tend to be in English anyway. With a map of the stage you can pick out road signs and work out where they are. I found the voices much less tiring than some hysterical commentators. Give it a try!
    Also, my OH reckons there should be highlights on Quest, 7pm each day
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    So basically they don't have anyone qualified to commentate the Giro, but they have to push the Welsh language agenda, is it fair?

    Hopefully it sounds as good as the Spanish TV...
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    ugo.santalucia said:

    So basically they don't have anyone qualified to commentate the Giro, but they have to push the Welsh language agenda, is it fair?

    Hopefully it sounds as good as the Spanish TV...

    Gruff Lewis has been a pro for years and has done quite a bit of commentary. S4C have also done more for terrestrial cycling coverage than BBC, they've provided live coverage of the cyclo cross nationals and national series cyclo cross as well as the Giro and Tour in recent years.

    Do you complain that Italian TV does their commentary in Italian too? I would guess the only reason S4C can cover it is because it is in Welsh as other ES / GCN have the English language rights.

    If you don't like it fork out for GCN. Ultimately commentary in Welsh (which I don't speak more than a few words) is better than listening to Kirby in English.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    They should speak British.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    kingstongraham said:

    They should speak British.

    And present from a studio flanked by large Union Jacks.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,490
    kingstongraham said:

    They should speak British.

    I see what you did there.

    "Brittonic-speaking populations had split into distinct groups: the Welsh in Wales, the Cornish in Cornwall, the Bretons in Brittany, the Cumbrians of the Hen Ogledd ("Old North") in southern Scotland and northern England, and the remnants of the Pictish people in northern Scotland. Common Brittonic developed into the distinct Brittonic languages: Welsh, Cumbric, Cornish and Breton."
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    First few episodes of Vikings FTW...

    (not sure Welshies can complain, they re certainly throwing some resources at it with all those people)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    Pross said:

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    Do you complain that Italian TV does their commentary in Italian too?

    Probably wants it in the local dialect...
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Pross said:

    kingstongraham said:

    They should speak British.

    And present from a studio flanked by large Union Jacks.
    I pay for it through my licence fee, it's just common sense.

    Cywirdeb gwleidyddol wedi mynd yn wallgof.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    edited May 2021
    This seems an appropriate place to mention Dave Brailsford's cameo appearance in Pobl Y Cwm

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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    Did he have to rehearse that a lot or is he...not a good actor

    (I know it's not technically acting, but in many ways, it is...)
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    ddraver said:

    Did he have to rehearse that a lot or is he...not a good actor

    (I know it's not technically acting, but in many ways, it is...)


    I don't think he's going to trouble the BAFTAs any time soon
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Very tedious...
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Any reason why the rest days are Tuesdays this year?
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    kingstongraham said:

    Any reason why the rest days are Tuesdays this year?

    In 2018 they began in Israel on the Friday and had 3 rest days (Monday / Tuesday / Tuesday)? Not sure if they planned to do the same last year before the Hungarian start was canned.

    10 days days straight (even if it starts with an 8km TT) is a big stint.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    yorkshireraw said:



    In 2018 they began in Israel on the Friday and had 3 rest days (Monday / Tuesday / Tuesday)? Not sure if they planned to do the same last year before the Hungarian start was canned.


    They were supposed to transfer to Sicily after Hungary. But they just started in Sicily instead
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    Who is Boulting covering the race for? Watched a clip on YouTube of today's finish with him on it.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    mrb123 said:

    Who is Boulting covering the race for? Watched a clip on YouTube of today's finish with him on it.

    The race organisers. I don't know where it ends up.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    edited May 2021
    Not sure but he mentioned on his podcast he was working for the race in some broadcast-related role with Matt Stephens. Suspect it's the world feed*

    (*though what the world feed is has always been a bit of a mystery to me. Obviously, it's the feed that goes to the world but... who is that exactly?)
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    He said on Never Strays Farfalle that employed by RCS, English language world feed but exc UK
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,823
    ddraver said:



    (*though what the world feed is has always been a bit of a mystery to me. Obviously, it's the feed that goes to the world but... who is that exactly?)

    I guess it will be English speaking countries other than here in the UK.

    It will be his commentary RCS use in highlights packages etc
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    takethehighroad said:

    ddraver said:



    (*though what the world feed is has always been a bit of a mystery to me. Obviously, it's the feed that goes to the world but... who is that exactly?)

    I guess it will be English speaking countries other than here in the UK.

    It will be his commentary RCS use in highlights packages etc
    Isn't that Kirby's usual gig hence why we are deprived of his dulcet tones and measured commentary for the Giro and other RCS events?
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Anyone else get the Cycling Podcast Giro d'Italia wine box?

    Just trying to work out which wine relates to which stage now 😆
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    bobmcstuff said:

    Anyone else get the Cycling Podcast Giro d'Italia wine box?

    Just trying to work out which wine relates to which stage now 😆

    Check the stage thread. Red for the start, white for the finish.
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    blazing_saddles said:

    bobmcstuff said:

    Anyone else get the Cycling Podcast Giro d'Italia wine box?

    Just trying to work out which wine relates to which stage now 😆

    Check the stage thread. Red for the start, white for the finish.
    Yeah, for this stage though?

    The box has 6 different wines in it, but I'm going to have to listen through the podcast to see which relates to which stage...

    This is what was in the box:



    Got some friends coming round later and we are going to go through them anyway.

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