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Damaged paint or damaged frame?


Just got delivery of my new bike that I've been waiting months for. However it fell over in my flat and has damage, see attached image.

Is the dented frame a problem and is the circled area cracked paint or a cracked frame?

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  • elbowlohelbowloh Posts: 5,744
    What's the frame made from? Alu?
    Felt F1 2014
    Felt Z6 2012
    Red Arthur Caygill steel frame ??
    Tall....
  • elbowloh said:

    What's the frame made from? Alu?

    Yeah.
  • imposter2.0imposter2.0 Posts: 11,258
    Difficult to see those pics clearly. Presumably that's the top tube? Probably not a crack, but there appears to be a crease there, which is not a good sign.
  • sungodsungod Posts: 13,526
    as above, can't tell from the pics

    if it's not deep/cracked, i'd guess you could ride it without issue for a long time, just check for any signs of crack developing, but there're no guarantees with the guess

    have you checked if home insurance, credit card purchase protection etc. would cover it?

    worst case, ask a repair company if wrapping the area with carbon fibre would be practical, shouldn't add much weight
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • Difficult to see those pics clearly. Presumably that's the top tube? Probably not a crack, but there appears to be a crease there, which is not a good sign.



    I sure hope you're right. Surprised it dented so easily. I appreciate its not designed to take impact on that edge of the top rail but I guess it goes to show how thin the material is. Can't have it all can you 😂
  • sungod said:

    as above, can't tell from the pics

    if it's not deep/cracked, i'd guess you could ride it without issue for a long time, just check for any signs of crack developing, but there're no guarantees with the guess

    have you checked if home insurance, credit card purchase protection etc. would cover it?

    worst case, ask a repair company if wrapping the area with carbon fibre would be practical, shouldn't add much weight

    I was thinking of a carbon wrap. I imagine that'd be costly though. Hard to see if it is a crack under the paint, and if it'll get worse. I guess just ride it and hope for the best.
  • joe_totale-2joe_totale-2 Posts: 1,302
    Tubes of aluminium bikes can be incredibly thin sometimes to keep the weight down.

    I recall reading on Weight Weenies that someone had an acorn fall onto the top tube of their CAAD 12 that caused a massive crater and the frame was a write off.
  • sungodsungod Posts: 13,526

    sungod said:

    as above, can't tell from the pics

    if it's not deep/cracked, i'd guess you could ride it without issue for a long time, just check for any signs of crack developing, but there're no guarantees with the guess

    have you checked if home insurance, credit card purchase protection etc. would cover it?

    worst case, ask a repair company if wrapping the area with carbon fibre would be practical, shouldn't add much weight

    I was thinking of a carbon wrap. I imagine that'd be costly though. Hard to see if it is a crack under the paint, and if it'll get worse. I guess just ride it and hope for the best.
    might not be costly, bear in mind it hasn't failed, i'd think adding a strengthening layer to protect it should be straightforward

    try contacting https://carbonbikerepair.co.uk/ they'll be able to give you an estimate
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 4,118
    sorry - why are you thinking of putting a carbon wrap on?

    that'll be like putting a plaster on a cut - undernwath its still stuffed, it just looks pretty on top.

    what frame is it?
  • elbowlohelbowloh Posts: 5,744
    edited 15 March
    It's aluminium!
    Felt F1 2014
    Felt Z6 2012
    Red Arthur Caygill steel frame ??
    Tall....
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 4,118
    elbowloh said:

    It's aluminium!

    i know that E dude but what make?
  • sungodsungod Posts: 13,526
    MattFalle said:

    sorry - why are you thinking of putting a carbon wrap on?

    that'll be like putting a plaster on a cut - undernwath its still stuffed, it just looks pretty on top.

    what frame is it?

    if the dent is minor, ride it

    otherwise the longterm choice is wrap it or scrap it...

    a dented al section isn't cost effective to repair, reshaping hardened al is asking for trouble and welding would mean having to repeat heat treatment then repaint, may as well buy a new frame

    cf wrap on al is simple, relatively cheap, it'll end up stronger than the original
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 4,118
    unless its a mega brilliant frame I'd get the area blasted, checked out by someone rather than posting some blurred pics on the internet then, if deemed safe, sort out the looks in a myriad of ways and ride it.

    actually - no, i wouldn't and you know i wouldn't. I'd just ride it as is and keep an eye on it.

    if its not a whizzy frame then just sell it and byy a new whizzy frame to replace.
  • elbowlohelbowloh Posts: 5,744
    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    It's aluminium!

    i know that E dude but what make?
    That wasn't aimed at you, but rather some of the comments about carbon repair.
    Felt F1 2014
    Felt Z6 2012
    Red Arthur Caygill steel frame ??
    Tall....
  • sungodsungod Posts: 13,526
    elbowloh said:

    It's aluminium!

    elbowloh said:

    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    It's aluminium!

    i know that E dude but what make?
    That wasn't aimed at you, but rather some of the comments about carbon repair.
    why?

    a cf wrap is a practical repair option for an al section, what others are there?
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • MattFalle said:

    sorry - why are you thinking of putting a carbon wrap on?

    that'll be like putting a plaster on a cut - undernwath its still stuffed, it just looks pretty on top.

    what frame is it?

    Specialized allez elite.
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