Yet another reason not to go tubeless.

reaperactual

oxoman said:

Old 2kg fire extinguisher tanks are good as well, once there emptied. Loads of how to make them on YouTube.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Estij8epQ

Thanks @oxoman, will check it out when it let's me play the link. Sounds like an interesting thing to use.😆👍

davidof

I recently converted my son's MTB to tubeless (tubeless tires on non tubeless rims). It was a bit of PITA but that was largely down to me. Had to retape one of the rims. I did this because every time we went out he was puncturing but he rides like a typical teenager. We currently have an issue with his rear tire deflating between rides, I will put a bit more sealant in it but with non tubeless rims I'm not expecting miracles.

It is not so great I'm going to convert myself.

I ran 7 years on road with tubeless but went back to tubes because the last two pairs of tubeless ready wheels I bought wouldn't take pressures of more than 80lbs - which I find a bit soft on 25mm tires. I rarely get punctures and can change an inner tube in 2 minutes so it is not a big issue compared to the palava of tubeless. If I found some good rims I might go back to tubeless but it is not in my budget for the next few years.

reaperactual

davidof said:

I recently converted my son's MTB to tubeless (tubeless tires on non tubeless rims). It was a bit of PITA but that was largely down to me. Had to retape one of the rims. I did this because every time we went out he was puncturing but he rides like a typical teenager. We currently have an issue with his rear tire deflating between rides, I will put a bit more sealant in it but with non tubeless rims I'm not expecting miracles.

It is not so great I'm going to convert myself.

I ran 7 years on road with tubeless but went back to tubes because the last two pairs of tubeless ready wheels I bought wouldn't take pressures of more than 80lbs - which I find a bit soft on 25mm tires. I rarely get punctures and can change an inner tube in 2 minutes so it is not a big issue compared to the palava of tubeless. If I found some good rims I might go back to tubeless but it is not in my budget for the next few years.

Yeah, I hear what your saying. If my Buddy has any more back tyre issues he's going back to innertubes.

Same for me and that 50/50 debate so suppose the only way to be sure is to try it for myself with the best tubeless set up possible, see how it goes and then decide if it is worth staying tubeless or going back to tubes. Thanks for sharing your experiences @davidof. 👍

steve_sordy

reaperactual said:

Thanks for all the thoughts and feedback. I realize that tubeless doesn't stop punctures, the free flowing sealant quickly seals any holes so eventually clicked to the comment made by @brundonbianchi that it certainly doesn't stop punctures and only becomes a problem if trying to fit an innertube in an emergency situation, makes sense!
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There is no doubt that a tyre with a load of gritty sealant in it is a farkin nuisance when fitting a tube. The sealant dries sticky on your hands, but responds to wiping on dew-soaked grass or washing in the nearest puddle. I wipe out the tyre with grass, bracken or similar vegetation. Before fitting the tube, I wipe a paper tissue around the inside of the tyre. Not to clean it though. I'm feeling for the tissue to catch on any thorns sticking through that would puncture the tube. There may be lots! I use a tissue because it is wider than my finger, but also not to slice my fingers on the thorn.

steve_sordy

reaperactual said:

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So I've already got two rolls of rim specific tape and two Presta tubeless valves in a kit. I like my current Conti Trail King rear and WTB Trail Boss front, both seem to work well for me in all aspects, I assume either of these tyres, some latex sealant and a decent pump/ghetto method for fast initial inflation will be suitable if I finally decide to convert to tubeless?

I have had zero difficulty with Conti Trail Kings over a number of years. I haven't used a WTB Trail Boss, but I have used the WTB Vigilante, again with zero problems. I do have a spare Trail Boss in my garage (removed from grandsons' bike) and just from the look of it I would put money on it being absolutely fine to run tubeless.

reaperactual

Lol, Steve. 🤣😂Sounds like you've had lots fun in those emergency situations grabbing
any surrounding fauna to help. Hopefully not but I'll be prepared if it happens.

Good to know my tyres are going to be suitable for tubeless conversion, if not my current tyres but probably the same tyres next time.

Thanks for that, another box ticked and slowly coming around to joining the tubeless gang.👍

ed1973

My tubeless conversion issues have been well documented on here. But what worked for me was the fire extinguisher ghetto blaster and a 1 inch ratchet strap around the middle of the tyre, this just forces the tyre bead onto the rim but you must remember to release it halfway through, oh and plenty of soapy water on the bead and rim.
Let us know how you get on @reaperactual

reaperactual

Thanks for all the advise, it's appreciated as always.

Fire Extinguisher Ghetto Blaster.....classic!!!🤣😂🤣😂

Watch this space my current tyres are nearly worn down, probably wait until I get replacements.

I'm sure I'll be panicking and back asking for help when I'm covered in exploded sealant.😬

ed1973

reaperactual said:

Thanks for all the advise, it's appreciated as always.

Fire Extinguisher Ghetto Blaster.....classic!!!🤣😂🤣😂

Watch this space my current tyres are nearly worn down, probably wait until I get replacements.

I'm sure I'll be panicking and back asking for help when I'm covered in exploded sealant.😬

reaperactual said:

Thanks for all the advise, it's appreciated as always.

Fire Extinguisher Ghetto Blaster.....classic!!!🤣😂🤣😂

Watch this space my current tyres are nearly worn down, probably wait until I get replacements.

I'm sure I'll be panicking and back asking for help when I'm covered in exploded sealant.😬

Face like a painters radio!