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  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 2,421
    Well you and FCE2007 certainly have original picks. Quite noticeable and chapeau. Having a multiplier for non traditional picks may bring more action, but there wouldn't really be a way to do it without massive, unreasonable effort I think.
    If you're in it with a chance of winning PTP, you pretty much need to constantly play it safe and boring. Seems that way to me at least.
    PTP Champion 2019
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,496
    m.r.m. said:

    Well you and FCE2007 certainly have original picks. Quite noticeable and chapeau. Having a multiplier for non traditional picks may bring more action, but there wouldn't really be a way to do it without massive, unreasonable effort I think.
    If you're in it with a chance of winning PTP, you pretty much need to constantly play it safe and boring. Seems that way to me at least.


    Rozzer32 wins regularly because he has the iron discipline to be utterly boring.
    During the Tour I do the Combativity Award which rewards rare picks, and I think that could be transferred over.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,496
    How about we get a trophy. Here's a suggestion. We would call it the The Andy Dunn Cup - Andy Dunn is the real name of afx237vi who started the whole thing. He's sadly presumed dead now as he had major health issues.

    This is an example of the possibilties

    https://www.trophiesplusmedals.co.uk/gold-large-cone-cycling-trophy-cup-on-a-black-base-572a-269 £11.99



    Or https://www.trophiesplusmedals.co.uk/sprocket-3d-cycling-trophy £10.99 small, £17.99 large



    Surely BikeRadar could spare the cash

    Twitter: @RichN95
  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 2,421
    edited 15 August
    I like the idea. I suggested a while ago we talk to Rapha Custom about getting a WC jersey done with an armchair outline within the rainbow bands like how the former WC jerseys used to be for mountain bike or track cycling. Would be a neat prize to ride in. 😆
    PTP Champion 2019
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,220
    RichN95. said:

    m.r.m. said:

    Well you and FCE2007 certainly have original picks. Quite noticeable and chapeau. Having a multiplier for non traditional picks may bring more action, but there wouldn't really be a way to do it without massive, unreasonable effort I think.
    If you're in it with a chance of winning PTP, you pretty much need to constantly play it safe and boring. Seems that way to me at least.


    Rozzer32 wins regularly because he has the iron discipline to be utterly boring.
    During the Tour I do the Combativity Award which rewards rare picks, and I think that could be transferred over.
    My picks are usually pretty boring as well but my issue is I miss quite a few stages - like Sunday, as I was busy riding in Yorkshire and forgot all about it. Especially annoying when it's an obvious sprint or GC day where the pick is usually a bit easier!

    It's only if I am in a rush (like I am just going out on the bike etc., or I have forgotten entirely and it's 11.58) that I'll only look at other picks.

    If it's a normal working day I'll check a couple of betting websites and INRNG and pick from there. Quite often the odds can be a bit implausible, either because there's too much money on certain riders (if the race is more popular) or occasionally it looks like they haven't really looked at the stage in much detail. The odds often drop off very quickly so you can get good returns E/W on picking consistent finishers.

  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 2,421
    Yeah missing stages is tough. I pick stages in advance in order to just get a pick in when I know I'll be busy. Atm we just moved house and I don't have internet outside of my phone and my GCN+ expired so I'm not watching any of the races which makes picking harder as well, since you can't judge the form of riders without seeing them actually ride.
    PTP Champion 2019
  • ProssPross Posts: 29,614
    I would say PTP is won and lost on those unpredictable GT transition stages (as well as making sure you do every race).
  • dish_dashdish_dash Posts: 5,254
    Updates after the Vuelta and the Benelux Tour

    Results

    It's proving to be a high scoring year and it is still pretty tight at the top. There are still up to 350 points up for grabs with four more rounds to go. Plenty to play for...

    Top 10
    twotoebenny 1277
    m.r.m. 1241
    archieboy 1215
    Dorset_Boy 1194
    bobmcstuff 1188
    rozzer32 1126
    ducknumber1 1103
    Pross 1097
    singleton 1090
    TheBigBean 1089
  • red.riderred.rider Posts: 642
    I’m offline for the weekend ahead. Could I pick a Swiss McDouble for the WC ITTs:

    WC ME ITT: Stefan KUNG
    WC WE ITT: Marlen RUESSER

    Thanks!
  • dish_dashdish_dash Posts: 5,254
    Into the final weekend we go. The results after the World Champs and Paris-Roubaix

    No big changes in the top 10 though the overall is still within touching distance for twotoebenny, m.r.m., and Dorset_Boy.

    Onto Il Lombardia and Paris Tours this weekend

    Top 10
    twotoebenny 1397
    m.r.m. 1366
    Dorset_Boy 1314
    archieboy 1290
    bobmcstuff 1288
    rozzer32 1246
    Pross 1232
    ducknumber1 1203
    singleton 1200
    TheBigBean 1149
  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 4,358
    dish_dash said:

    Into the final weekend we go. The results after the World Champs and Paris-Roubaix

    No big changes in the top 10 though the overall is still within touching distance for twotoebenny, m.r.m., and Dorset_Boy.

    Onto Il Lombardia and Paris Tours this weekend

    Top 10
    twotoebenny 1397
    m.r.m. 1366
    Dorset_Boy 1314
    archieboy 1290
    bobmcstuff 1288
    rozzer32 1246
    Pross 1232
    ducknumber1 1203
    singleton 1200
    TheBigBean 1149

    I think my only chance is twotoebenny and m.r.m to lose access to the internet this week! Roglic winning the Vuelta did for me I think.
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 14,066
    I think I will be 10th irrespective of Lombardy. Another year finishing ahead of @dish_dash which is always pleasing.
  • dish_dashdish_dash Posts: 5,254
    And so it ends... a late surge from Dorset_Boy to overtake m.r.m. but not quite enough to beat twotoebenny! Only 31 points between those three.

    Congratulations @twotoebenny - the 2021 PTP Champion!
    And the highest scoring player since I started coordinating in 2016.

    Full Results here

    Top 10
    twotoebenny 1427
    Dorset_Boy 1399
    m.r.m. 1396
    archieboy 1320
    bobmcstuff 1288
    rozzer32 1281
    Pross 1267
    ducknumber1 1233
    singleton 1230
    TheBigBean 1179

    Thank you all for playing - there were 42 of us (down from 52 last year)

    And a special thank you to our scorers @RichN95. @twotoebenny @ducknumber1 @red.rider @gregster04 @bobmcstuff It couldn't happen without you

    I'm going to go back to enjoying my holiday. Will be back in February. Drop me a line if you want to help, or propose changes, in the new year!
  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 4,358
    Congratulations twotoebenny!

    Massive thanks to Dish_Dash and all the scorers.
  • red.riderred.rider Posts: 642
    Congratulations twotoebenny! Great stamina across a long season.

    Thanks dish_dash for organising. See you on 26.02 for Omloop 2022
  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 2,421
    Congrats twotoebenny!

    Huge thanks dish_dash and to everyone else scoring and creating the daily race threads!
    PTP Champion 2019
  • twotoebennytwotoebenny Posts: 1,081
    Thanks guys, very close at the end up...

    Special thanks to Dish for organising - think it always adds to the excitement when watching the races
  • singletonsingleton Posts: 2,032
    Congratulations twotoebenny!
    Big thanks to Dish for organising and for all the scorers.

    This is my first year of PTP and it's been great - it does make the races more interesting when I am invested in the result.
  • ProssPross Posts: 29,614
    Thanks dish_dash and all who scored. I think that's the first time I've made the top 10 and it is probably mainly down to me getting picks in for each race this season.
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 14,066
    dish_dash said:


    I'm going to go back to enjoying my holiday. Will be back in February. Drop me a line if you want to help, or propose changes, in the new year!

    Don't forget you need to organise Christmas drinks!

    Thanks for scoring. Long time since you finished above me.
  • gregster04gregster04 Posts: 1,367
    Thanks for organising once again dish-dash. Congrats twotoebenny, that was a good score and a close competition.

    I really need to remember the Tour de Suisse and Benelux Tour exist and stop going for breakaway winners when my TdF pick inevitably crashes out. However, I will forget all this come 2022.

    See you all next year.
  • ducknumber1ducknumber1 Posts: 993
    Thanks for running dish, all organisers & everyone taking part - count me in for 2022!
  • ocdupalaisocdupalais Posts: 3,947
    Well done Twotoe - and the commissaires…
    4 observations:
    1) what’s so difficult about KBK that no one can score a point?
    2) Matt Falle talked a load of rubbish, if I recall - and gets his 80 Vuelta points docked to be a total zero. Harsh, but fair.
    3) Rick Chasey really really wants to join but might feel like actually making public predictions will compromise his punditry.
    4) Rick Chasey really really wants to PTP.

    The message? Don’t PTP KBK and don’t talk tosh….
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,220
    I forgot the last 2 races of the season entirely, so I have to be happy with my 5th place :smiley: . With archieboy and I being fairly close I could have moved up to 4th with a couple of decent results (32 points gap, so getting the 5th and 6th placed riders would have been enough) but that would have been my best possible result.

    Now rueing my other missed picks through the season! :disappointed:
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