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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    joe2019 said:

    MattFalle said:

    joe2019 said:

    pangolin said:

    joe2019 said:

    I believe there is some truth in some of the most famous conspiracy theories, including:

    NASA never went to the moon.
    Bush was involved in 9/11.
    The Royals were involved in Diana's death.

    Flat earth is way beyond me though.

    Walk me through that first one
    MattFalle said:

    pangolin said:

    joe2019 said:

    I believe there is some truth in some of the most famous conspiracy theories, including:

    NASA never went to the moon.
    Bush was involved in 9/11.
    The Royals were involved in Diana's death.

    Flat earth is way beyond me though.

    Walk me through that first one
    actually, walk me through all 3 please.

    #intrigued
    #knowledge

    Only 12 people, all American men, have walked on the moon, the last in 1972, however fear not, NASA Astronaut Don Pettit explains why:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16MMZJlp_0Y

    "I'd go back to the moon in a nanosecond. The problem is we don't have the technology to do that anymore, we used to, but we destroyed that technology and it's a painful process to build it back again."

    2 & 3: Simply, I don't trust Bush or the Royal family.


    brilliant. Great reasoning all round backed up facts, evidence, evaluation of viewpoints.

    anything to persuade us?

    #intrigued

    It's just what I believe, why would I want to persuade you?
    bevause we might be wrong and you might be right but unless you persuade us otherwise we may always be wrong and you may be the only one who is right.

    #qed
    #ipsofacto
    #TDKBOMB
    #sigh.tdkbomb
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    Welcome back Manc33
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    oh it's not is it?

    MF thought he had gone

    #notagain
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    MattFalle said:

    oh it's not is it?

    MF thought he had gone

    #notagain

    I thought you had gone :)
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    joe2019 said:

    MattFalle said:

    oh it's not is it?

    MF thought he had gone

    #notagain

    I thought you had gone :)
    omnipotent and omnipresent

    #ubique
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    edited December 2020

    joe2019 said:

    MattFalle said:

    joe2019 said:

    pangolin said:

    joe2019 said:

    I believe there is some truth in some of the most famous conspiracy theories, including:

    NASA never went to the moon.
    Bush was involved in 9/11.
    The Royals were involved in Diana's death.

    Flat earth is way beyond me though.

    Walk me through that first one
    MattFalle said:

    pangolin said:

    joe2019 said:

    I believe there is some truth in some of the most famous conspiracy theories, including:

    NASA never went to the moon.
    Bush was involved in 9/11.
    The Royals were involved in Diana's death.

    Flat earth is way beyond me though.

    Walk me through that first one
    actually, walk me through all 3 please.

    #intrigued
    #knowledge

    Only 12 people, all American men, have walked on the moon, the last in 1972, however fear not, NASA Astronaut Don Pettit explains why:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16MMZJlp_0Y

    "I'd go back to the moon in a nanosecond. The problem is we don't have the technology to do that anymore, we used to, but we destroyed that technology and it's a painful process to build it back again."

    2 & 3: Simply, I don't trust Bush or the Royal family.


    brilliant. Great reasoning all round backed up facts, evidence, evaluation of viewpoints.

    anything to persuade us?

    #intrigued

    It's just what I believe, why would I want to persuade you?
    Because the alternative is to have people know that you are a nutcase who believes any old codswallop without a stroke of evidence?
    A lot of people believe that the official version of events is 'codswallop', I'm not sure if that make you a nutcase for believing them?
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    joe2019 said:

    joe2019 said:

    MattFalle said:

    joe2019 said:

    pangolin said:

    joe2019 said:

    I believe there is some truth in some of the most famous conspiracy theories, including:

    NASA never went to the moon.
    Bush was involved in 9/11.
    The Royals were involved in Diana's death.

    Flat earth is way beyond me though.

    Walk me through that first one
    MattFalle said:

    pangolin said:

    joe2019 said:

    I believe there is some truth in some of the most famous conspiracy theories, including:

    NASA never went to the moon.
    Bush was involved in 9/11.
    The Royals were involved in Diana's death.

    Flat earth is way beyond me though.

    Walk me through that first one
    actually, walk me through all 3 please.

    #intrigued
    #knowledge

    Only 12 people, all American men, have walked on the moon, the last in 1972, however fear not, NASA Astronaut Don Pettit explains why:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16MMZJlp_0Y

    "I'd go back to the moon in a nanosecond. The problem is we don't have the technology to do that anymore, we used to, but we destroyed that technology and it's a painful process to build it back again."

    2 & 3: Simply, I don't trust Bush or the Royal family.


    brilliant. Great reasoning all round backed up facts, evidence, evaluation of viewpoints.

    anything to persuade us?

    #intrigued

    It's just what I believe, why would I want to persuade you?
    Because the alternative is to have people know that you are a nutcase who believes any old codswallop without a stroke of evidence?
    A lot of people believe that the official version of events is 'codswallop', I'm not sure if that make you a nutcase for believing them?
    Yes a lot of people do believe but you wouldn’t want to get stuck in a lift with any of them.
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    joe2019 said:

    joe2019 said:

    MattFalle said:

    joe2019 said:

    pangolin said:

    joe2019 said:

    I believe there is some truth in some of the most famous conspiracy theories, including:

    NASA never went to the moon.
    Bush was involved in 9/11.
    The Royals were involved in Diana's death.

    Flat earth is way beyond me though.

    Walk me through that first one
    MattFalle said:

    pangolin said:

    joe2019 said:

    I believe there is some truth in some of the most famous conspiracy theories, including:

    NASA never went to the moon.
    Bush was involved in 9/11.
    The Royals were involved in Diana's death.

    Flat earth is way beyond me though.

    Walk me through that first one
    actually, walk me through all 3 please.

    #intrigued
    #knowledge

    Only 12 people, all American men, have walked on the moon, the last in 1972, however fear not, NASA Astronaut Don Pettit explains why:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16MMZJlp_0Y

    "I'd go back to the moon in a nanosecond. The problem is we don't have the technology to do that anymore, we used to, but we destroyed that technology and it's a painful process to build it back again."

    2 & 3: Simply, I don't trust Bush or the Royal family.


    brilliant. Great reasoning all round backed up facts, evidence, evaluation of viewpoints.

    anything to persuade us?

    #intrigued

    It's just what I believe, why would I want to persuade you?
    Because the alternative is to have people know that you are a nutcase who believes any old codswallop without a stroke of evidence?
    A lot of people believe that the official version of events is 'codswallop', I'm not sure if that make you a nutcase for believing them?
    No, just an Occam fan.
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338


    No, just an Occam fan.

    Fair enough.

    Diana had feared for her life at the hands of the establishment.

    She wrote, "I am sitting here at my desk today in October, longing for someone to hug me and encourage me to keep strong and hold my head high. This particular phase in my life is the most dangerous. [...] is planning 'an accident' in my car, brake failure and serious head injury in order to make the path clear for Charles to marry.”
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    joe2019 said:


    No, just an Occam fan.

    Fair enough.

    Diana had feared for her life at the hands of the establishment.

    She wrote, "I am sitting here at my desk today in October, longing for someone to hug me and encourage me to keep strong and hold my head high. This particular phase in my life is the most dangerous. [...] is planning 'an accident' in my car, brake failure and serious head injury in order to make the path clear for Charles to marry.”
    I can google too:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/oct/21/monarchy.stephenbates

    TLDR:
    "Likelihood - remote"
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    joe2019 said:


    No, just an Occam fan.

    Fair enough.

    Diana had feared for her life at the hands of the establishment.

    She wrote, "I am sitting here at my desk today in October, longing for someone to hug me and encourage me to keep strong and hold my head high. This particular phase in my life is the most dangerous. [...] is planning 'an accident' in my car, brake failure and serious head injury in order to make the path clear for Charles to marry.”
    Now I'm not British but if you take into account the history of it's Kings and Queens I believe it's not beyond the realm of "no way that could happen". Monarchies' have never been all that trustworthy, even to their so called friends and companions. If they have an issue with you it's "off with your head" or so it would seem. Not the best way to do things but it's their way.
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    dennisn said:

    I believe it's not beyond the realm of "no way that could happen".

    Ah yes, the conspiracy nutter's motto.

    It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that Dennis is Donald Trump. Or that I am. Or that I'm dreaming all this. Or that...
    ...oh my goodness, is that the time? I really must be going....
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    dennisn said:

    joe2019 said:


    No, just an Occam fan.

    Fair enough.

    Diana had feared for her life at the hands of the establishment.

    She wrote, "I am sitting here at my desk today in October, longing for someone to hug me and encourage me to keep strong and hold my head high. This particular phase in my life is the most dangerous. [...] is planning 'an accident' in my car, brake failure and serious head injury in order to make the path clear for Charles to marry.”
    Now I'm not British but if you take into account the history of it's Kings and Queens I believe it's not beyond the realm of "no way that could happen". Monarchies' have never been all that trustworthy, even to their so called friends and companions. If they have an issue with you it's "off with your head" or so it would seem. Not the best way to do things but it's their way.
    I think you may have been right if you go back 200 years but I don’t think they have been able to behead anyone in the last couple centuries. But the orange one has been thinning out death row in the last few weeks of being in office.
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    I quite like this one too:

    Richard III DNA shows the current Royal family has no royal bloodline.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    Who on earth would expect alien lizard illuminati to share DNA with a character from a Shakespeare play?
  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    I like the Paul McCartney is dead one. I remember reading a tremendously detailed website about it. How he'd crashed a car, died, been replaced by a lookalike, and the Beatles left loads of coded messages in their music and album art. It had loads of pics of Paul and "Paul", who looked pretty similar, and how if you played something backwards it said "turn me on dead man". Oh, a quick Google shows it's all on Wikipedia now. Still, a harmless conspiracy. Unless you're McCartney I suppose.
  • hopkinb said:

    I like the Paul McCartney is dead one. I remember reading a tremendously detailed website about it. How he'd crashed a car, died, been replaced by a lookalike, and the Beatles left loads of coded messages in their music and album art. It had loads of pics of Paul and "Paul", who looked pretty similar, and how if you played something backwards it said "turn me on dead man". Oh, a quick Google shows it's all on Wikipedia now. Still, a harmless conspiracy. Unless you're McCartney I suppose.

    "McCartney", you mean.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    That one popped up on Facebook today and caught my eye.

    #they'reallmental
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    Classic deflection there. The alien lizard illuminati get the Believers to focus on the Rothschilds, that there is a bright sunny 'free' existence just over the horizon. See that glow in the sky, there's your brave new world. No no, it's not coming from the ovens, that's just a conspiracy theory for nutjobs.
  • MattFalle said:

    That one popped up on Facebook today and caught my eye.

    #they'reallmental

    Was it a Trump re-tweet?
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Bizarrely not to the best of knowledge. I'm guessing this as there wasn't enough random use of capitalisation.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle said:


    Well, that's cleared everything up for me.🤔

    Have been hearing about "global reset" in relation to corona virus from various sources, however none of them seem to be able to competently explain wtf it is.
    Anyone got any idea?
  • capt_slog
    capt_slog Posts: 3,974

    MattFalle said:


    Well, that's cleared everything up for me.🤔

    Have been hearing about "global reset" in relation to corona virus from various sources, however none of them seem to be able to competently explain wtf it is.
    Anyone got any idea?
    None.

    However, i bet that every single one of these 'uckwits will still expect the electricity and gas to carry on working, and the toilets will take away what they use for their brains.

    Similar are the 'space is fake' bunch who still rely on SatNav and never question how their stupid belief can be seen from New SouthWales to New York over the internet, just as long as the grown-ups keep it all organised.


    The older I get, the better I was.

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    edited December 2020
    In fact the more outlandish conspiracy theories are seeded by the state in order to discredit the less outlandish ones that Diana Spencer, Robin Cook and John Smith were murdered by the our secret service. But now if you argue that they were assassinated you are lumped in with people who believe the world is run by lizards.

    I just made that one up.

    Seriously I can believe some - like the Lady Di one or that scientist involved in the WMD row are possible. Another is that Marc Dutroux (??) in Belgium - a lot of the people involved in investigating do seem to have met a premature end.
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  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338

    In fact the more outlandish conspiracy theories are seeded by the state in order to discredit the less outlandish ones that Diana Spencer, Robin Cook and John Smith were murdered by the our secret service. But now if you argue that they were assassinated you are lumped in with people who believe the world is run by lizards.

    I just made that one up.

    Seriously I can believe some - like the Lady Di one or that scientist involved in the WMD row are possible. Another is that Marc Dutroux (??) in Belgium - a lot of the people involved in investigating do seem to have met a premature end.


    In all seriousness, I believe that the Lady Di one is probable :/
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    joe2019 said:

    In fact the more outlandish conspiracy theories are seeded by the state in order to discredit the less outlandish ones that Diana Spencer, Robin Cook and John Smith were murdered by the our secret service. But now if you argue that they were assassinated you are lumped in with people who believe the world is run by lizards.

    I just made that one up.

    Seriously I can believe some - like the Lady Di one or that scientist involved in the WMD row are possible. Another is that Marc Dutroux (??) in Belgium - a lot of the people involved in investigating do seem to have met a premature end.


    In all seriousness, I believe that the Lady Di one is probable :/
    We've all now seen how lethal the Duke of Edinburgh is when he gets behind the wheel...
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    joe2019 said:

    In fact the more outlandish conspiracy theories are seeded by the state in order to discredit the less outlandish ones that Diana Spencer, Robin Cook and John Smith were murdered by the our secret service. But now if you argue that they were assassinated you are lumped in with people who believe the world is run by lizards.

    I just made that one up.

    Seriously I can believe some - like the Lady Di one or that scientist involved in the WMD row are possible. Another is that Marc Dutroux (??) in Belgium - a lot of the people involved in investigating do seem to have met a premature end.


    In all seriousness, I believe that the Lady Di one is probable :/
    Bollix it is.

    Trust me, 5 have a lot bigger things to worry about than an errant ex Princess.

    Seriously - do ypu honestly think they wasted time on that?

    The WMD dude - now yeah, lets have a closer look at that one...


    #itsthegovernmentyouknow
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.