Other sports worth following
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If you are ruling out darts then surely you have to rule out anything sitting down?
I read recently that they can not build a robot to beat the top dartists as the robot can not compensate so minor changes in atmospheric conditions.0 -
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Disagree, if you are using your upper body to propel you, you are not sedentary, you're just engaging different biomechanics.surrey_commuter said:If you are ruling out darts then surely you have to rule out anything sitting down?
I read recently that they can not build a robot to beat the top dartists as the robot can not compensate so minor changes in atmospheric conditions.
As for the skill of darts, not for one second saying a high level of skill is not involved, doesn't make it a sport though.0 -
I'd argue archery in it's current form is a skill game that has it's origins in hunting. It could be made into a sport like biathlon if you had to cover km's on foot in between shots (or whatever they are called)elbowloh said:I've also always been on the darts is not a sport side, but then I think if archery is classed as a sport, then so should darts.
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So your argument against darts is that there is not enough exertion?morstar said:
Disagree, if you are using your upper body to propel you, you are not sedentary, you're just engaging different biomechanics.surrey_commuter said:If you are ruling out darts then surely you have to rule out anything sitting down?
I read recently that they can not build a robot to beat the top dartists as the robot can not compensate so minor changes in atmospheric conditions.0 -
You could also do biathlon darts with the players running back and forth between the oche and the bar.morstar said:
I'd argue archery in it's current form is a skill game that has it's origins in hunting. It could be made into a sport like biathlon if you had to cover km's on foot in between shots (or whatever they are called)elbowloh said:I've also always been on the darts is not a sport side, but then I think if archery is classed as a sport, then so should darts.
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And not like this "if that's darts, then I'm offski"rick_chasey said:Darts at the olympics would be sh!t unless they accept the full ally pally style fan experience.
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Basically yes. It’s a skilled but largely sedentary activity.surrey_commuter said:
So your argument against darts is that there is not enough exertion?morstar said:
Disagree, if you are using your upper body to propel you, you are not sedentary, you're just engaging different biomechanics.surrey_commuter said:If you are ruling out darts then surely you have to rule out anything sitting down?
I read recently that they can not build a robot to beat the top dartists as the robot can not compensate so minor changes in atmospheric conditions.
It’s a game.
That doesn’t make it more or less worthy that any other pastime but it’s not a sport imho.0 -
That works.elbowloh said:
You could also do biathlon darts with the players running back and forth between the oche and the bar.morstar said:
I'd argue archery in it's current form is a skill game that has it's origins in hunting. It could be made into a sport like biathlon if you had to cover km's on foot in between shots (or whatever they are called)elbowloh said:I've also always been on the darts is not a sport side, but then I think if archery is classed as a sport, then so should darts.
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For me, darts at its best can offer a lot of the things I most enjoy about sport: tension, drama, twists and turns, amazing skill under the highest of pressure.
The great matches at the World Champs (think Taylor v Barney, MvG v Cross, MvG v Barney) stack up against pretty much anything in terms of excitement IMO. I'm not going to spend too much time worrying that the protagonists don't resemble your archetypal athlete. Neither do a lot of rugby front rows!
I feel the same about snooker at the highest level though, albeit the drama plays out in a rather different atmosphere!0 -
I love darts and played it badly at pub league level for a couple of years. The amount of practice you need to do just to have a chance of throwing a decent check out is incredible, honestly keeping race cycling fit is easier and takes less time!mrb123 said:For me, darts at its best can offer a lot of the things I most enjoy about sport: tension, drama, twists and turns, amazing skill under the highest of pressure.
The great matches at the World Champs (think Taylor v Barney, MvG v Cross, MvG v Barney) stack up against pretty much anything in terms of excitement IMO. I'm not going to spend too much time worrying that the protagonists don't resemble your archetypal athlete. Neither do a lot of rugby front rows!
I feel the same about snooker at the highest level though, albeit the drama plays out in a rather different atmosphere!
Just like snooker, the more you play it the more you realise that the gap between us regular pub players and the professionals is enormous and it needs more than just hard work to get to the top.
I'm not fussed if darts and snooker are considered sports or not, as you state, the drama that both can provide is incredible and up there with the best.0 -
I agree. Classification has zero impact on the product itself.joe_totale-2 said:
I love darts and played it badly at pub league level for a couple of years. The amount of practice you need to do just to have a chance of throwing a decent check out is incredible, honestly keeping race cycling fit is easier and takes less time!mrb123 said:For me, darts at its best can offer a lot of the things I most enjoy about sport: tension, drama, twists and turns, amazing skill under the highest of pressure.
The great matches at the World Champs (think Taylor v Barney, MvG v Cross, MvG v Barney) stack up against pretty much anything in terms of excitement IMO. I'm not going to spend too much time worrying that the protagonists don't resemble your archetypal athlete. Neither do a lot of rugby front rows!
I feel the same about snooker at the highest level though, albeit the drama plays out in a rather different atmosphere!
Just like snooker, the more you play it the more you realise that the gap between us regular pub players and the professionals is enormous and it needs more than just hard work to get to the top.
I'm not fussed if darts and snooker are considered sports or not, as you state, the drama that both can provide is incredible and up there with the best.
I just find it an odd classification. Maybe one for the trivial things thread.0 -
I have been too a number of big ticket sporting occasions and seeing Taylor at the Palace is right up there. Ten years ago I took about a dozen people from work to see Taylor in the first round (reigning champ always plays first night) he obviously plays last and the noise and adulation was incredible. Some of those people still thank me for it a decade later. The best £20 anybody could spend.mrb123 said:For me, darts at its best can offer a lot of the things I most enjoy about sport: tension, drama, twists and turns, amazing skill under the highest of pressure.
The great matches at the World Champs (think Taylor v Barney, MvG v Cross, MvG v Barney) stack up against pretty much anything in terms of excitement IMO. I'm not going to spend too much time worrying that the protagonists don't resemble your archetypal athlete. Neither do a lot of rugby front rows!
I feel the same about snooker at the highest level though, albeit the drama plays out in a rather different atmosphere!0 -
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Presumably your spend on booze was rather more than £20 though!surrey_commuter said:
I have been too a number of big ticket sporting occasions and seeing Taylor at the Palace is right up there. Ten years ago I took about a dozen people from work to see Taylor in the first round (reigning champ always plays first night) he obviously plays last and the noise and adulation was incredible. Some of those people still thank me for it a decade later. The best £20 anybody could spend.mrb123 said:For me, darts at its best can offer a lot of the things I most enjoy about sport: tension, drama, twists and turns, amazing skill under the highest of pressure.
The great matches at the World Champs (think Taylor v Barney, MvG v Cross, MvG v Barney) stack up against pretty much anything in terms of excitement IMO. I'm not going to spend too much time worrying that the protagonists don't resemble your archetypal athlete. Neither do a lot of rugby front rows!
I feel the same about snooker at the highest level though, albeit the drama plays out in a rather different atmosphere!0 -
God you southerners. So down and dirty with your working mans passtimes.
E it’s grim darn sarf.0 -
John Lowe, the first darts player to throw a 9 dart finish on TV used to drink in my local many moons ago.
Surprise, surprise there wasn't a dartsboard in the place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg5Y2CURFl8&ab_channel=UnicornDarts 1 -
James Wade just hit a 9 darter in the match on at the moment. Not quite the same without the crowd in there going bananas.Cargobike said:John Lowe, the first darts player to throw a 9 dart finish on TV used to drink in my local many moons ago.
Surprise, surprise there wasn't a dartsboard in the place.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg5Y2CURFl8&ab_channel=UnicornDarts0 -
I was going with a couple of mates and asked a bloke in the office if he wanted to come, before you know it our dept Xmas lunch had been tacked on the front and we were all going.rick_chasey said:Have been trying very hard to do the team social at the ally pally for some years.
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And not forgetting the £20 to have your photo taken with Ericmrb123 said:
Presumably your spend on booze was rather more than £20 though!surrey_commuter said:
I have been too a number of big ticket sporting occasions and seeing Taylor at the Palace is right up there. Ten years ago I took about a dozen people from work to see Taylor in the first round (reigning champ always plays first night) he obviously plays last and the noise and adulation was incredible. Some of those people still thank me for it a decade later. The best £20 anybody could spend.mrb123 said:For me, darts at its best can offer a lot of the things I most enjoy about sport: tension, drama, twists and turns, amazing skill under the highest of pressure.
The great matches at the World Champs (think Taylor v Barney, MvG v Cross, MvG v Barney) stack up against pretty much anything in terms of excitement IMO. I'm not going to spend too much time worrying that the protagonists don't resemble your archetypal athlete. Neither do a lot of rugby front rows!
I feel the same about snooker at the highest level though, albeit the drama plays out in a rather different atmosphere!0 -
It'll cost ya more than that.surrey_commuter said:
And not forgetting the £20 to have your photo taken with Ericmrb123 said:
Presumably your spend on booze was rather more than £20 though!surrey_commuter said:
I have been too a number of big ticket sporting occasions and seeing Taylor at the Palace is right up there. Ten years ago I took about a dozen people from work to see Taylor in the first round (reigning champ always plays first night) he obviously plays last and the noise and adulation was incredible. Some of those people still thank me for it a decade later. The best £20 anybody could spend.mrb123 said:For me, darts at its best can offer a lot of the things I most enjoy about sport: tension, drama, twists and turns, amazing skill under the highest of pressure.
The great matches at the World Champs (think Taylor v Barney, MvG v Cross, MvG v Barney) stack up against pretty much anything in terms of excitement IMO. I'm not going to spend too much time worrying that the protagonists don't resemble your archetypal athlete. Neither do a lot of rugby front rows!
I feel the same about snooker at the highest level though, albeit the drama plays out in a rather different atmosphere!0 -
Anybody who watched the MVG match could not think that is a pastime0
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Don't confuse classification with skill, intensity, whatever other measure.surrey_commuter said:Anybody who watched the MVG match could not think that is a pastime
Poker can be very intense and consuming but that doesn't make it a sport.
Interestingly enough, in the article linked as a counter to my questioning the sporting credentials of darts, it referenced how bridge players tried to get themselves classified as a sport.
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Its not. I also think Ice dance isn't a sport and that's hardly a working man's activity.rick_chasey said:It’s just snobbery if you think darts isn’t a sport.
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Glad you clarified that for us all. Up your own arse much?rick_chasey said:It’s just snobbery if you think darts isn’t a sport.
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Agreed. Pure sporting drama of the highest order.surrey_commuter said:Anybody who watched the MVG match could not think that is a pastime
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I would argue that anything that involves a subjective decision to decide the winner is not sportelbowloh said:
Its not. I also think Ice dance isn't a sport and that's hardly a working man's activity.rick_chasey said:It’s just snobbery if you think darts isn’t a sport.
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