La Vuelta 2020 - Stage 8 : Logroño > Alto de Moncalvillo - 164 km *Spoilers*

notquite6foot

Back together now, as Kuss counters. Carapaz and Rog counter seconds later.

blazing_saddles

Carapaz attacks and only Mr Bonus Seconds sits on his wheel.

notquite6foot

Now Vlasov attacks. Looks like he'll get the stage as Carapaz/Roglic/Carthy/Martin play poker with each other.

Spoke too soon. Roglic has his number and only Carthy is yet to get back on.

jam1e

No. ****ing no!

blazing_saddles

So Roglic's dip in form lasted 48 hours.

kingstongraham

Carapaz in red by 1 second?

kingstongraham

by 13 seconds. I forgot Roglic wasn't second before today

notquite6foot

kingstongraham said:

Carapaz in red by 1 second?

Carthy would have loved that. He wasn't the stage winner, though.

Carapaz now leads by 13 seconds.

EDIT: Just spotted your subsequent post.

blazing_saddles

All that work from Movistar and they came off worst again.

A good few kms of attacking, instead of the train and 500m sprint.

andyp

Movistar cementing their grip on the team competition though.

phreak

blazing_saddles said:

All that work from Movistar and they came off worst again.

A good few kms of attacking, instead of the train and 500m sprint.

It's still turning GTs into multiple days of LBL though, which is pretty dull imo.

Kauto5

It took Kirby 3 minutes 18 seconds to ask Kelly a question leading up to the final climb, in which he gave him every possible scenario and every possible answer, to which Kelly replied "we will see"

Pross

That was actually pretty impressive by Roglic today. A couple of big attacks and the final effort seemed to last forever, Carapaz looked like he was coming back then the elastic broke. It amazes me sometimes how much time can be lost in such a short distance. Carthy really is a diesel isn't he? He went to attack at one point and by time he'd got to the front of the group everyone had already got on his wheel.

For some reason today Carlton had it in his head that Roglic will probably lose time to the climbers over the weekend, I can't recall him showing weakness in other big mountain stages and certainly not in the Tour this year.

pblakeney

Pross said:

For some reason today Carlton had it in his head that Roglic will probably lose time to the climbers over the weekend, I can't recall him showing weakness in other big mountain stages and certainly not in the Tour this year.

And certainly no evidence today. I'd banked my PTP on a lighter climber dropping him on the steeper parts. Didn't work out like that. Mostly as I've just found out that Roglic is only 65kgs. I assumed he was heavier than that. 😱

bobmcstuff

Roglic, meh.

bobmcstuff

Kauto5 said:

It took Kirby 3 minutes 18 seconds to ask Kelly a question leading up to the final climb, in which he gave him every possible scenario and every possible answer, to which Kelly replied "we will see"

ITV4 highlights was pretty good... was in back to backs all day so couldn't watch it live. Sounds like I didn't miss out...

m.r.m.

blazing_saddles said:

All that work from Movistar and they came off worst again.

A good few kms of attacking, instead of the train and 500m sprint.

I wonder if they expect Valverde to be able to finish, but instead age has actually finally caught up with him? Maybe one could say they mistimed it a little bit, because they all pulled off a little too early towards the end. Could have been the steepness of the gradient though, turning the final 2-3 km into an eternity.

RichN95.

m.r.m. said:

blazing_saddles said:

All that work from Movistar and they came off worst again.

A good few kms of attacking, instead of the train and 500m sprint.

I wonder if they expect Valverde to be able to finish, but instead age has actually finally caught up with him? Maybe one could say they mistimed it a little bit, because they all pulled off a little too early towards the end. Could have been the steepness of the gradient though, turning the final 2-3 km into an eternity.

I think Movistar's entire tactical philosophy is 'let's try it, what's the worst that can happen'. It's Spain. They want to be on TV.

mididoctors

Decent enough dong ding battle . Hugh a tad deep too early ..but not bad

Pross

RichN95. said:

m.r.m. said:

blazing_saddles said:

All that work from Movistar and they came off worst again.

A good few kms of attacking, instead of the train and 500m sprint.

I wonder if they expect Valverde to be able to finish, but instead age has actually finally caught up with him? Maybe one could say they mistimed it a little bit, because they all pulled off a little too early towards the end. Could have been the steepness of the gradient though, turning the final 2-3 km into an eternity.

I think Movistar's entire tactical philosophy is 'let's try it, what's the worst that can happen'. It's Spain. They want to be on TV.

I think they just like trying to cause chaos without worrying too much about a plan.

pblakeney

Pross said:

RichN95. said:

m.r.m. said:

blazing_saddles said:

All that work from Movistar and they came off worst again.

A good few kms of attacking, instead of the train and 500m sprint.

I wonder if they expect Valverde to be able to finish, but instead age has actually finally caught up with him? Maybe one could say they mistimed it a little bit, because they all pulled off a little too early towards the end. Could have been the steepness of the gradient though, turning the final 2-3 km into an eternity.

I think Movistar's entire tactical philosophy is 'let's try it, what's the worst that can happen'. It's Spain. They want to be on TV.

I think they just like trying to cause chaos without worrying too much about a plan.

Main objective usually turns out to be best team.