Social Distancing is getting forgotten

rwoofer
rwoofer Posts: 222
Too my dismay, I saw a lot of group rides this weekend in Surrey. Not big groups, but typically 2-4 males all of similar age. I know in my area a lot of people complain about cyclists flouting rules and this kind of behaviour really doesn't help our cause.

So the question is, why have some people stopped social distancing??
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Because they're self-absorbed idiots and couldnt give a sh11t...
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,080

    Because they're self-absorbed idiots and couldnt give a sh11t...

    Spot on, stereo-typical Londoners!
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,038
    Absolutely agree that things are breaking down, but I wouldn’t presume to make assumptions about any specific group.

    I’ve even heard (lowers voice) that sometimes guys live together.....

  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    And if you're riding behind someone you need to leave (I think) 10m to be safe. 2m ain't enough.
  • A few of my friends have been "bumping into" each other and strangely enough followed exactly the same route for the next two hours. Stupid in my opinion.
  • What if one of your cycling buddies is someone you work with?

    You go to work and yes you social distance at the workplace but your with that person for 8 hours but you can’t go out on your bike together and keep the social distancing!!!
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    You shouldn't be out cycling with your workmates.
  • fenix said:

    You shouldn't be out cycling with your workmates.

    I’m not!!

  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    rwoofer said:

    Too my dismay, I saw a lot of group rides this weekend in Surrey. Not big groups, but typically 2-4 males all of similar age. I know in my area a lot of people complain about cyclists flouting rules and this kind of behaviour really doesn't help our cause.

    So the question is, why have some people stopped social distancing??

    Because they are able to see what the real risk is rather than the extreme paranoia that is way out of whack with the facts of the situation.
  • topsey_turvey
    topsey_turvey Posts: 420
    Round here it seems to be gangs of 6-8 youfs on mountain bikes just razzing about,
    (I believe that's what they say), or small groups of 2 or 3 mates in a mini chain gang. Easy to find out who they are from Strava Flyby!

    Two of my buddies keep going out for 50/60 mile rides together, and they keep taking selfies of themselves doing it???
    Frank Yates
  • thistle_
    thistle_ Posts: 7,213

    Two of my buddies keep going out for 50/60 mile rides together, and they keep taking selfies of themselves doing it???

    Maybe they're a couple but it's not official yet and cycling is just a cover story?

    There's 2 guys I've seen every Sunday for the last couple of weeks going for a ride together, they meet up just down the road and then social distance the whole way (i.e. one on each side of the main road) which makes overtaking difficult, or entertaining depending on how you look at it.

  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,298
    While the risk is low, the message they give out is wrong. Disobeying the law is always wrong, more so when a minority of people are working their socks off and risking their life to mend the shortcomings of others.
    If we all practised social distancing to the letter, we wouldn't have 4-5,000 new cases a day and in turn we would have fewer NHS and care workers getting sick and fewer dying.
    Anyone not following the guidelines to the letter is partly responsible for the massacre of innocent workers. One day they will look back at the all thing and regret having being an axxehole... but they won't be able to fix it
    left the forum March 2023
  • redvision
    redvision Posts: 2,958
    Of course it's not right if cyclists are riding in groups as it is (has been) against the lockdown rules, but at least they are not in a confined space.

    We haven't been able to get a home delivery slot from any of the supermarkets since lockdown began, so having to go every fortnight for supplies. Right from the start of the restrictions and the 2m rule, I have been staggered at the lack of enforcement in stores. They seem organised controlling customers when queuing outside, but once in store customers are not staying 2m apart and staff seem reluctant to enforce the message.

    This is more of a concern for me than a couple of cyclists riding outside together.
  • joe_totale-2
    joe_totale-2 Posts: 1,333
    edited May 2020
    I did a solo ride round North Kent on Saturday. Plenty of couples and pairs out who could live in the same household (Giving them the benefit of the doubt).

    What was striking was a group of 6, 40 something year old men riding together near Crowhurst. I was pretty close to shouting something at them as I went past them but decided to bite my tongue.

    Later on near Biggin Hill I came across another group of 6 or so riders who were clearly all from Ecuador, again roughly all in the 40's.

    Maybe large house shares of divorced, 40 something year old men are on the rise?
  • Darius_Jedburgh
    Darius_Jedburgh Posts: 675
    edited May 2020
    The general opinion seems to be that 2 metres is way over the top. Even the bell end who thought it up didn't believe it, or he wouldn't have been s*hagging another man's wife. So how come this virus is still being spread?

    What are people doing to be in close enough contact to spread it? Everyone I come across is fastidious on keeping their distance.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686

    Later on near Biggin Hill I came across another group of 6 or so riders who were clearly all from Ecuador...

    How do you know this? Were they keeping a careful eye out for Colombian road blocks?

    Ben

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,740
    edited May 2020

    The general opinion seems to be that 2 metres is way over the top. Even the bell end who thought it up didn't believe it, or he wouldn't have been s*hagging another man's wife. So how come this virus is still being spread?

    What are people doing to be in close enough contact to spread it? Everyone I come across is fastidious on keeping their distance.

    He's already had the virus. Probably caught it from being in close contact with someone else who had it.
  • joe_totale-2
    joe_totale-2 Posts: 1,333
    edited May 2020
    Ben6899 said:

    Later on near Biggin Hill I came across another group of 6 or so riders who were clearly all from Ecuador...

    How do you know this? Were they keeping a careful eye out for Colombian road blocks?

    The fact they were all wearing jerseys with the Ecuadorian flag on, their skin complexion and the fact that they were speaking Spanish.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,298
    In Ecuador they are quite relaxed about the all pandemic thing... dead are left to rot at the side of the road...
    left the forum March 2023
  • thistle_
    thistle_ Posts: 7,213

    One day they will look back at the all thing and regret having being an axxehole... but they won't be able to fix it

    Most of them probably won't. It wasn't anything that they did :confused:

  • thistle_
    thistle_ Posts: 7,213

    Maybe large house shares of divorced, 40 something year old men are on the rise?

    Maybe some cycling club members all moved in together so they could keep going out on their weekly rides.

  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686

    In Ecuador they are quite relaxed about the all pandemic thing... dead are left to rot at the side of the road...

    It's one day at a time in Ecuador.
    Ben

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  • rwoofer
    rwoofer Posts: 222

    rwoofer said:

    Too my dismay, I saw a lot of group rides this weekend in Surrey. Not big groups, but typically 2-4 males all of similar age. I know in my area a lot of people complain about cyclists flouting rules and this kind of behaviour really doesn't help our cause.

    So the question is, why have some people stopped social distancing??

    Because they are able to see what the real risk is rather than the extreme paranoia that is way out of whack with the facts of the situation.
    Actually my point was nothing to do with the real risk, which I also perceive to be low, but the perception it creates among members of the general public. We are just giving them ammunition to target cyclists as law breakers. I'm already finding an increasing amount of quite aggressive behaviour from car drivers, who are clearly getting aggravated by what they see.

    I would like to see more people embrace cycling as the future and this is an opportunity to bring more people into the fold, but not if we alienate them.
  • slowmart
    slowmart Posts: 4,488
    OP your thread title is wrong, social distancing isn't being forgotten, it's worse than that. People are choosing to ignore the request to social distance or only go out for essential journeys.

    “Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”

    Desmond Tutu
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    redvision said:

    Of course it's not right if cyclists are riding in groups as it is (has been) against the lockdown rules, but at least they are not in a confined space.

    We haven't been able to get a home delivery slot from any of the supermarkets since lockdown began, so having to go every fortnight for supplies. Right from the start of the restrictions and the 2m rule, I have been staggered at the lack of enforcement in stores. They seem organised controlling customers when queuing outside, but once in store customers are not staying 2m apart and staff seem reluctant to enforce the message.

    This is more of a concern for me than a couple of cyclists riding outside together.

    If I'm in a shop I'd be wearing a mask or buff as a basic barrier and out of the shop and home to wash my hands.
    To me that's a lot less risk than riding behind or alongside someone puffing on a bike.

    And you do need food after all. You don't have to ride with a mate.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437

    rwoofer said:

    Too my dismay, I saw a lot of group rides this weekend in Surrey. Not big groups, but typically 2-4 males all of similar age. I know in my area a lot of people complain about cyclists flouting rules and this kind of behaviour really doesn't help our cause.

    So the question is, why have some people stopped social distancing??

    Because they are able to see what the real risk is rather than the extreme paranoia that is way out of whack with the facts of the situation.
    The situation of there being double the average number of deaths than normal you mean ?

    And why would they need to ride with their pals to hold their hand anyway ? Utterly stupid.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,165
    I'd do some personal research into the effectiveness of masks and buffs first.
    The Buff company specifically state that they are useless on their webpage.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 8,783
    I've been out a lot and only seen a few small groups I'd be fairly certain weren't families. They are very visible of course but I guess it just reflects a wider loosening of respect for the social distancing laws - the vast majority still adhere but the minority is a growing one.

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  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    pblakeney said:

    I'd do some personal research into the effectiveness of masks and buffs first.
    The Buff company specifically state that they are useless on their webpage.

    That's interesting. Just had a look and it does say they aren't intended for that purpose - but for shopping I'm not going to use a medical mask that even NHS staff are struggling to get. Their need is clearly far greater than shoppers.
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    rwoofer said:

    rwoofer said:

    Too my dismay, I saw a lot of group rides this weekend in Surrey. Not big groups, but typically 2-4 males all of similar age. I know in my area a lot of people complain about cyclists flouting rules and this kind of behaviour really doesn't help our cause.

    So the question is, why have some people stopped social distancing??

    Because they are able to see what the real risk is rather than the extreme paranoia that is way out of whack with the facts of the situation.
    Actually my point was nothing to do with the real risk, which I also perceive to be low, but the perception it creates among members of the general public. We are just giving them ammunition to target cyclists as law breakers. I'm already finding an increasing amount of quite aggressive behaviour from car drivers, who are clearly getting aggravated by what they see.

    I would like to see more people embrace cycling as the future and this is an opportunity to bring more people into the fold, but not if we alienate them.
    The aggressiveness from car drivers is because many of these drivers are just out for a jolly on what should be quiet roads(look at the cars that are being driven in relation to the aggressiveness you see) but are finding many more cyclists because they have reclaimed the roads for exercise. As traffic increases driving speed is being controlled by cyclists more than it has have ever been.