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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    If I was a boss of a professional services firm
    i would look into saving on office costs by looking at maybe having a big chunk of the work force work from home on certain days and have maybe desks for only 70% of your staff.

    Lower overheads.

    If more staff commute only 3 days a week then those who go by train could save some money too, plus any mental health benefits.

    I am certainly considering asking to become a tw@t (Tuesdays Wednesdays and Thursdays) on return.

    A lot of them already have done. So have we and we're not in professional services.
    I imagine a lot of companies will downsize square foot by a lot more than a third. This will of course have a knock on effect on businesses dependent upon office workers. This will be a double whammy for property companies. And council revenues, but at least they have not been borrowing money to invest in property.
    Also on trains & travel; if this happens en masse there will fewer journeys taken.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,804
    edited May 2020
    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    If I was a boss of a professional services firm
    i would look into saving on office costs by looking at maybe having a big chunk of the work force work from home on certain days and have maybe desks for only 70% of your staff.

    Lower overheads.

    If more staff commute only 3 days a week then those who go by train could save some money too, plus any mental health benefits.

    I am certainly considering asking to become a tw@t (Tuesdays Wednesdays and Thursdays) on return.

    A lot of them already have done. So have we and we're not in professional services.
    I imagine a lot of companies will downsize square foot by a lot more than a third. This will of course have a knock on effect on businesses dependent upon office workers. This will be a double whammy for property companies. And council revenues, but at least they have not been borrowing money to invest in property.
    It will depend whether to what extent they have already done this. Talking to the accounting and tax firms, many already work on the basis that a large number of staff are at clients or WFH.

    So by how much may well be down to specific circumstances. The need to space people out more in many cases will tend to counteract the lower numbers coming in, for a while anyway.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • nickice
    nickice Posts: 2,439
    Schengen though not the EU. At the very least, there will be a modified version of it.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,804
    nickice said:

    Schengen though not the EU. At the very least, there will be a modified version of it.

    The single currency could well be a casualty given a bit of time for the economic impact to work its way through.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    Stevo_666 said:

    nickice said:

    Schengen though not the EU. At the very least, there will be a modified version of it.

    The single currency could well be a casualty given a bit of time for the economic impact to work its way through.
    You know how you criticise people for appearing to want something to fail... 😏
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,804
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    nickice said:

    Schengen though not the EU. At the very least, there will be a modified version of it.

    The single currency could well be a casualty given a bit of time for the economic impact to work its way through.
    You know how you criticise people for appearing to want something to fail... 😏
    I'm not wanting, I'm predicting (Or to be clear, saying it has a good chance of happening). Two different things and I have been consistent on that :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Wheelspinner
    Wheelspinner Posts: 6,711
    Wouldn’t it be lovely if the phrase “according to experts” was never heard again....
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  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    Wheelspinner said:

    Wouldn’t it be lovely if the phrase “according to experts” was never heard again....

    Over the last 4 and a bit years in the UK they have been digging their own graves and laying in them
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,811
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    nickice said:

    Schengen though not the EU. At the very least, there will be a modified version of it.

    The single currency could well be a casualty given a bit of time for the economic impact to work its way through.
    You know how you criticise people for appearing to want something to fail... 😏
    I'm not wanting, I'm predicting (Or to be clear, saying it has a good chance of happening). Two different things and I have been consistent on that :smile:
    Good. I did say appearing :)
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Wheelspinner said:

    Wouldn’t it be lovely if the phrase “according to experts” was never heard again....

    When it refers to articles like the one where the two experts on epidemiology were the Professor of International Public Health at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine on one side, and Toby Young on the other, then agreed.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,804
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    nickice said:

    Schengen though not the EU. At the very least, there will be a modified version of it.

    The single currency could well be a casualty given a bit of time for the economic impact to work its way through.
    You know how you criticise people for appearing to want something to fail... 😏
    I'm not wanting, I'm predicting (Or to be clear, saying it has a good chance of happening). Two different things and I have been consistent on that :smile:
    Good. I did say appearing :)
    How you read in between the lines and misinterpret is up to you ;)
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    The care home community for the next few years...*ahem*
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    rick_chasey said:

    The care home community for the next few years...*ahem*

    There might be a push to put younger and younger folks into them... I already find those over 55 gated apartment blocks ridiculous...
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  • capt_slog
    capt_slog Posts: 3,974
    tailwindhome said:


    Yup.

    Just what i said to Mrs Slog this weekend.

    We spent a couple of days away in hotels, and were given a bit of cooked breakfast on a plate. I'll bet they were saving a lot by giving everyone breakfast this way rather than the lavish 'help yourself' that it used to be.


    The older I get, the better I was.

  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    capt_slog said:

    tailwindhome said:


    Yup.

    Just what i said to Mrs Slog this weekend.

    We spent a couple of days away in hotels, and were given a bit of cooked breakfast on a plate. I'll bet they were saving a lot by giving everyone breakfast this way rather than the lavish 'help yourself' that it used to be.
    Agree, and probably will be like this for the next few years but market forces will bring it back when common-sense and normality resumes.

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