So COVID 19 and your sportive

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,900
    I think solo riding from home is the way forward for a considerable period of time.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • thecycleclinic
    thecycleclinic Posts: 395
    The worst thing is the transmission rate is not reduced by banning mass gathering. To reduce the transmission rate you have to keep everyone at home wuhan style. Even then it will return once the restriction are lifted. Its impractical to keep everyone at home until there is a vaccine. Besides in britain we dont like close contact. We are quite happy sitting 1m metre apart. We prefer it. We would rather keep our hands in our pockets and simpy nod to say hello.

    The government is about to be bounced into banning mass gatherings. That is not a logical approach. Most of the acts of foreign governments have not been logical. They are.most ineffectual. A few like taiwan have had a very vast iron approach which includes isolating all visitors for a time and enforcing it with mobile phone tracking. Malta is isolating all.visitors for two weeks. We cant do the same unless the Irish do due to the common travel area.

    Just cancel rather than postpone. By the end of the year I am likely to be so poor that I wont be able to afford to book anything. The coming recession is going to be deep.
    www.thecycleclinic.co.uk
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,703
    thecycleclinic said:

    The worst thing is the transmission rate is not reduced by banning mass gathering.

    What's the source for this?
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    If we follow what Italy and Spain have done then all recreational cycling will be banned. I believe it's because they don't want anyone needing a&e services.

    Social Distancing is what works.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,703
    Ditchling Devil in June cancelled.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,787
    edited March 2020
    Dirty Reiver now postponed until goodness knows when.
  • zest28
    zest28 Posts: 403
    My sportive is in the summer, so the corona virus will be gone, just like the flu.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,900
    zest28 said:

    My sportive is in the summer, so the corona virus will be gone, just like the flu.

    I find your optimism both heartwarming, and misplaced.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Darius_Jedburgh
    Darius_Jedburgh Posts: 675
    Cycling is not banned in this country.
    The Velo 29 Daffodil Sportive at the weekend is going ahead, albeit with some minor alterations such as properly staggered starts.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    I'd not bet on it. I mean is it necessary ? No.
    100s of riders ?

    Let's play safe and knock it on the head.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    Just had email from England Athletics and they're cancelling everything.

    Your sportive can't be going ahead.
  • Darius_Jedburgh
    Darius_Jedburgh Posts: 675
    I'm not in it, but I've just had a circular email telling me that it is definitely on.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,703
    FrankYates said:

    Cycling is not banned in this country.
    The Velo 29 Daffodil Sportive at the weekend is going ahead, albeit with some minor alterations such as properly staggered starts.

    I guess this is why it needs to be mandated and not left to people's better nature.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/new-data-new-policy-why-uks-coronavirus-strategy-has-changed
  • Darius_Jedburgh
    Darius_Jedburgh Posts: 675
    There are some phenomenal predictions for likely deaths from this.
    The predictions are far in excess of actual deaths in China where this started with no warning.
    The world now is on high alert so if deaths are to reach the levels spoken of then we are doing something very wrong.
    Project Fear Mk2???
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    Well wtf was Johnson talking about last week ? Don't go on cruises if you're old. Toodle pip.

    If you're looking to the casinos in Vegas and the pubs in Dublin to lead the way - wtf is he good for ?
  • Darius_Jedburgh
    Darius_Jedburgh Posts: 675
    Why does being 70 make you immediately ultra vulnerable? What happens on your 70th birthday to change your risk from when you were 69 years 11 months old?
    I was out with some 70 year old cyclists at the weekend and the average speed was close to 20 mph.
    Try telling them that they are old and weak.
    (It's my birthday on Sunday so I expect I'll be dead on Monday)
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,703
    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nhs-doctor-warns-we-are-already-at-breaking-point-11958542
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,354
    FrankYates said:

    Why does being 70 make you immediately ultra vulnerable? What happens on your 70th birthday to change your risk from when you were 69 years 11 months old?
    I was out with some 70 year old cyclists at the weekend and the average speed was close to 20 mph.
    Try telling them that they are old and weak.
    (It's my birthday on Sunday so I expect I'll be dead on Monday)

    It's a guideline not an absolute. For the average person the risk of death from COVID-19 increases as you get older, and is highest in the 70+ bracket. The cyclists you were out with may be less at risk than the 35 year old who is 25 stone, with a bad diet and underlying problems, but that's not the point of the guideline.
  • Darius_Jedburgh
    Darius_Jedburgh Posts: 675
    So if it's a guideline why is it being talked about as though it had been handed down to Moses on a tablet of stone?
    It's all these "experts" with their worst case scenarios that are driving half the panic.
  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    FrankYates said:

    So if it's a guideline why is it being talked about as though it had been handed down to Moses on a tablet of stone?
    It's all these "experts" with their worst case scenarios that are driving half the panic.

    because its a general rule of thumb the majority of over 70 years will be affected badly by this, though I think your immunity does tail off as you get older regardless of how fit you maybe, and the press cant cope with reporting the sublteties of anything but blanket instructions, all this stuff about Boris closing down pubs/theatres/restaurants across the country came from a section where he said "and this is specific advice for Londoners"

    so what chance do you think well some of you over 70 are in poor health and youll know it it will be lethal to you, some of you may have health issues but you dont know it quite yet makes you more at risk and will probably be quite bad, whilst maybe some of you others probably going to be ok, will get across.
  • Darius_Jedburgh
    Darius_Jedburgh Posts: 675
    awavey said:



    so what chance do you think well some of you over 70 are in poor health and youll know it it will be lethal to you, some of you may have health issues but you dont know it quite yet makes you more at risk and will probably be quite bad, whilst maybe some of you others probably going to be ok, will get across.

    And in English, please?

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 27,703
    Exactly
  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    FrankYates said:

    awavey said:



    so what chance do you think well some of you over 70 are in poor health and youll know it it will be lethal to you, some of you may have health issues but you dont know it quite yet makes you more at risk and will probably be quite bad, whilst maybe some of you others probably going to be ok, will get across.

    And in English, please?

    precisely my point :) so how does the government explain a policy that defines only a complex subset of people who need to take a particular action ?

    how do you clearly define the subset in simple enough terms that enough of those people understand whether it does or doesnt apply to them, when the outcome of them making the wrong choice could likely result in their death.
  • slowmart
    slowmart Posts: 4,516
    British cycling has banned all events “at least to 30th April”.

    Somehow I’m thinking this will be one of the smaller sized problems we will face through the summer.

    “Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”

    Desmond Tutu
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    1st world problems. Like Frank annoyed at the 70 year old cutoff.

    How would this sportive work exactly with longer cut offs ? Somewhere the riders would be grouping and waiting there for a longer time for their slot ? Madness.
  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 6,028
    Isle of Wight Randonnee 2020 on May 3rd cancelled.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,304
    You can safely assume that anything up to July will be cancelled in the next few days. Then we will see, but realistically I don't see anything happening until September at the very earliest.

    I have cancelled BRUM 200 with the idea of rescheduling in late September, but I am not holding my breath, and it might well be that it's postponed until 2021...
    left the forum March 2023
  • mrfpb
    mrfpb Posts: 4,569
    There is no law or advice against riding your bike on a sportive course (though closed road routes will be difficult). You might have trouble finding a cake stop, though.

    Incidentally you can still enter Sport Relief's prize draw to win a day at the Tour de Yorkshire with Team Ineos.

    https://prizeathon.comicrelief.com/lite-ui/?controller=raffles&action=showRaffle&id=6&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social-paid&utm_campaign=SR20_Prizeathon_Engage_Enter_INEOS_INEOS_UK_NA_NA_Picture_Interest_SR00415&utm_term=NA&utm_content=TKF
  • fishybaldrick
    fishybaldrick Posts: 8
    Cheshire Cat, Lakeland Loop and Mallorca 312 have all gone in the last 24 hrs on top of the Dragon Ride. Fully expecting Velo Brum and Marmotte to follow suit rather rapidly. Fred Whitton being on same day as Dragon ride would suggest that won’t be happening either
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    I'm meant to be riding the Etape. I really don't think we'll even be flying by then.

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