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Commuter / winter trainer tyre.

I'm running Vittoria Zaffiro front and Gatorskin rear and the rear needs replaced. Most mileage is commuting over the usual variety of decent and crappy that most of encounter with some weekend 20 - 30 mile jaunts into the countryside.
Advice sought on good value 28mm tyres - Planet X have some tyres I'm not familiar with such as the Ruffy Tuffy, also they and Wiggle have some Schwalbes that I've not used. I've used Gatorskins in the past, previously in 23 and 25mm widths but on my commuter CX I'm not happy on 28s and can't go wider.
I want decent mileage, p*ncture protection and grip - the rear Gatorskin appears to have some life left in it but I've been experiencing some unexpected slides on greasy roads and I think it's wear level is a contributor.
Recommendations please.

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  • pangolinpangolin Posts: 3,556
    Using schwalbe one performance 28mm at the moment. Only 300 or so miles in but so far so good, do seem to attract cuts a bit but no punctures. Bit more time needed to see if they are worth it.

    "needs replaced" - is this an American term?
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  • joe_totale-2joe_totale-2 Posts: 1,302
    edited January 2020
    Schwalbe Durano or Michelin Pro 4 Endurance. Both are as tough as a Gatorskin but also have good grip and aren't a pain to fit.
  • andyrrandyrr Posts: 1,574
    pangolin said:


    "needs replaced" - is this an American term?

    Needs replacing? Sorry, my grammatical ability is below what is expected.

    I'll browse across a few outlets to see what deals are around.
  • singletonsingleton Posts: 1,923
    Michelin Pro4 Endurance are my favourites - but riding mates also like Conti 4 seasons.
  • mugensimugensi Posts: 558
    I've been using Michelin Lithions (25s) on my winter bike for the last 2 years, theyre a fantastic tyre, puncture resistance is excellent and they appear to be wearing very well. I've approx. 4000kms on them and no signs of wear on either front or rear tyre, plus theyre very cheap!
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 9,306
    Personally IIRC formula pro xguards, not cheap but bombproof if you can cope with tubeless.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • For puncture-free experience, I've been on Marathon+ 25c for over 3000miles on commute. It's not "performance" tyre but heck, if you're looking for winter / commuter tyres, I don't know if you can get any puncture-free than going on airless tyres.

    Cheaper alternative is Wiggle's own Marathon+ equivalent.
  • Durano Plus for my commute. Yes, slightly heavier but v.reliable.
  • LongshotLongshot Posts: 935
    GP 4 Seasons
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  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 9,306
    Tried GP,s and Durano,s and ended up with gaterskins without any flats, both roadbikes are now tubeless and as mentioned above I run the IRC Formula pro xguards tyres tubeless. The Durano,s went down to the blue anti P strip in less than a thousand miles, I wasn't happy so went back to gaterskins. The GP4000,s I used, seemed to attract the P fairy as well.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/road-bike-reviews/pirelli-cinturato-velo-2018

    Based on this and other reviews I think the Pirelli will be the next winter tyre I try, in the mean time my Schwalbe Duranos have been pretty good.
  • Pro 4 Endurance
  • Schwalbe Supreme. Tubeless.
    Negligible wear, pretty light, roll pretty well (I also do weekend club rides on them) and, despite the terrain I ride on, only had a single puncture in 1200 miles that was easily plugged with a worm.
  • andyrrandyrr Posts: 1,574
    Ended up with a decent deal on a Zaffiro Pro - matches the front which has been a decent tyre, will see how that works on the rear.
  • darrell1967darrell1967 Posts: 327
    edited February 2020
    Gatorskins here. Bought them in November and not had a flat yet. They’re dear though.
  • A bit late to the party with this one! Michelin Pro 4 Endurance are my favourite, good feel and protection and also quite light for a winter tyre. Otherwise Gatorskin GP 4 Seasons are very good, but expensive.
  • fenixfenix Posts: 5,437
    Tried Michelin endurance and had two punctures in three weeks. It got a bit better and then had more flats. Went back to Schwalbe Marathons.

    Heavy but won't leave you fixing flats at the side of the road.
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