Prince Andrew, the pedo and corroborated allegations

And Prince Andrew still hasn’t been spoken to by the police and nor has Ms Maxwell regarding their relationship and allegations from numerous individuals
Makes you proud of our justice system eh.
Makes you proud of our justice system eh.
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Where do you go from there without further evidence?
“He looks dodgy.” is not enough.
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No idea how they actually prosecute historic sex crimes though
I am not defending anything, just saying that it is hard to prosecute.
Damage had been done though.
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"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
So it is plenty more than a he said she said.
What annoys me though, is why it takes so long for these stories to come out?
Has a formal complaint been made for charges to be pressed?
My main concern is that trial by media is a worrying precedent.
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It gets to the heart of the issue of royals. WTF are they actually for.
The rest of your post seems to suggest that somehow minor Royals are not allowed friends, sleepovers or to make errors in judgement? We don't know if he's guilty even though he's been tried by the Media already. I certainly think he has some very serious questions to answer, but let's make them the right ones rather than prejudiced anti-royalist ones that aren't pertinent to the case (if there ever is one).
I'd like to know why a representative of the British state is happy to stay at a convicted nonce's house, and why you think that is excusable as an 'error of judgement'.
The man literally has entire teams who are there to advice him against those stupid judgements, and he did it anyway.
There's enough circumstantial evidence to suggest it's very likely he was having sex with teenage girls at Epstein's properties. Given what we know about Epstein it's a reasonable assumption to make that these girls had been coerced in some way into doing so. What we don't know perhaps with certainty is how much Prince Andrew knew of the girls' situation but even that, well, it's hard to believe someone wouldn't have had a word with Prince Andrew and asked him if he realised what was going on. I'm sure our intelligence services have a role in keeping tabs on what royalty are up to and Andrew is hardly a minor member of the family he was second in line to the throne for quite a time.
Who said it was excusable? Your biases are showing through and you've convicted the guy long before the court does.
I wonder if something like this is happening with this royal? There's been posts basically saying he looks guilty.
I guess people want someone to punish and the main man killed himself so let's look at anyone who has associated with him. This increasingly becoming more minor royal is perfect candidate. But how many others associated with him? I heard an interview where one of Tony Blair's spin doctors had a private dinner with the guy possibly in that NY property. How many other great and powerful around the world have associated with him? Did Blair, Clinton, W Bush, Obama, Trump? I don't really know if they did I just picked prominent names out of the hat.
Why aren't they giving dodgy interviews to try and save their reputation? I believe at least 2 on that list had associations with the guy over a few years.
OK, when I said "we" I mean the country, not me personally. We've been through this before - we make a profit out of the Royals.
Who said it was excusable? Your biases are showing through and you've convicted the guy long before the court does.
It's a bit like the trickle down effect, lots of people say it happens but seem unable to quantify it?
Come on.
That's not biased. That's fact. He has literally done this and went on TV to say so.
And I didn't mean you personally. If the royals disappeared tomorrow people will still rock up in their thousands to see their premises.
He's a representative of the state and he ought to behave like one. He gets paid for it. If he's not doing his job properly he ought to lose his job like everyone else.
Ultimately I'm unconvinced that he is getting the same treatment say, as someone you'd more likely see on on Jeremy Kyle would received either by the public or by the rozzers, and that rankles.
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Christ. What I am saying is, as a prince he represents the state and with his literal privilege comes responsibility, and so he is being rightfully getting pressed on why he was doing it and what that says about his judgement.
Andrew comes across as thick as sh1te enveloped in self entitlement which doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, which is not a crime, but seriously, no police enquiry into trafficking minors, a charge his mate was guilty of and what was witnessed by Andrew.
Andrew states he does the honourable thing, unfortunately this it seems doesn’t extend to testifying in any civil case being bought by the victims against Epstein’s estate.
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Once there is, bring down the full force of the court.
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