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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,493

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so

    Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.
    I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored done
    It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).
    I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:

    William Hague
    Iain Duncan Smith
    Michael Howard
    David Cameron
    Theresa May

    I would still pick any of the above ahead of Gove, even with hindsight.
    Michael Howard? I think he was the worst leader of the opposition this century.
    Yes. Even. Shows how bad things are.
    Even worse that the opposition isn't walking all over them.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so

    Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.
    I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored done
    It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).
    I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:

    William Hague
    Iain Duncan Smith
    Michael Howard
    David Cameron
    Theresa May

    I would still pick any of the above ahead of Gove, even with hindsight.
    you have to be joking with IDS and Howeird
  • Pross said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so

    Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.
    I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored done
    It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).
    I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:

    William Hague
    Iain Duncan Smith
    Michael Howard
    David Cameron
    Theresa May

    Cameron was streets ahead of the current lot during a pretty difficult time although he made the stupid mistake of being bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum. May was the wrong PM at the wrong time although calling a GE was a stupid mistake. Gove was comprehensively beaten when he stood against her (and only got a few more votes than Leadsom!) and was quite widely ridiculed as a contender back then from memory yet is now seen as the best option. Hague was a bit ridiculous in his attempts to be a man of the people but I think he was a decent politician.

    I was thinking back more to past Cabinet members in the days of Thatcher or Blair who never even became Party leader.
    bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum.

    that is quite a dramatic rewriting of history
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,493

    Pross said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so

    Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.
    I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored done
    It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).
    I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:

    William Hague
    Iain Duncan Smith
    Michael Howard
    David Cameron
    Theresa May

    Cameron was streets ahead of the current lot during a pretty difficult time although he made the stupid mistake of being bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum. May was the wrong PM at the wrong time although calling a GE was a stupid mistake. Gove was comprehensively beaten when he stood against her (and only got a few more votes than Leadsom!) and was quite widely ridiculed as a contender back then from memory yet is now seen as the best option. Hague was a bit ridiculous in his attempts to be a man of the people but I think he was a decent politician.

    I was thinking back more to past Cabinet members in the days of Thatcher or Blair who never even became Party leader.
    bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum.

    that is quite a dramatic rewriting of history
    Brexit was splitting not only the tory party but their voters. He couldn't risk a split vote and let Labour get in that way. So, exaggerated, but not rewriting.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,493

    pblakeney said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so

    Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.
    I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored done
    It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).
    I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:

    William Hague
    Iain Duncan Smith
    Michael Howard
    David Cameron
    Theresa May

    I would still pick any of the above ahead of Gove, even with hindsight.
    you have to be joking with IDS and Howeird

    Show how low my opinion of Gove is.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,389

    These threads are getting confusing - can we regroup the Tory party stuff in the right thread please?

    I'm confused, I thought this was the Corona thread. Or the Brexit thread.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    I thought it was the Tory thread.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,493
    Others may have learned that if they ask questions then they will get answers.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    pblakeney said:

    Others may have learned that if they ask questions then they will get answers.

    Fine, but can we at least has an investigation into this blatant corruption of the "Things you have recently learnt" thread?
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    Who started it?

    Who was involved?

    How long has it been going on?

    How can it be stopped from happening again?

    Punishment?

  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    Perhaps we can at least learn something from this debacle.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,389

    Perhaps we can at least learn something from this debacle.

    Is this the Irony thread?
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154

    Perhaps we can at least learn something from this debacle.

    Is this the Irony thread?
    This is a matter for the current investigation, sorry I can't be more helpful than that.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,154
    edited January 2022
    I can tell you though a result of the investigation will be released in due course.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597

    Pross said:

    Pross said:

    pinno said:

    Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so

    Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.
    I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored done
    It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).
    I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:

    William Hague
    Iain Duncan Smith
    Michael Howard
    David Cameron
    Theresa May

    Cameron was streets ahead of the current lot during a pretty difficult time although he made the stupid mistake of being bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum. May was the wrong PM at the wrong time although calling a GE was a stupid mistake. Gove was comprehensively beaten when he stood against her (and only got a few more votes than Leadsom!) and was quite widely ridiculed as a contender back then from memory yet is now seen as the best option. Hague was a bit ridiculous in his attempts to be a man of the people but I think he was a decent politician.

    I was thinking back more to past Cabinet members in the days of Thatcher or Blair who never even became Party leader.
    bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum.

    that is quite a dramatic rewriting of history
    Bullied is probably the wrong word but he was pressurised into it mainly due to the threat UKIP were posing to the Tory vote. Before that they had always been able to withstand the internal Euro sceptics.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,270
    That Declan McManus aka Elvis Costello is a bit of a snowflake, asking for Oliver's Army to be cancelled.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,504
    Devi Durga - from Hinduism.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,867
    Pross said:

    orraloon said:

    That Declan McManus aka Elvis Costello is a bit of a snowflake, asking for Oliver's Army to be cancelled.

    Someone should explain to him it's here to stay.
    We need more peace, love and understanding.
  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,951
    I think that the story that I read suggested that his argument was more along the lines of "you're making it worse by bleeping the word, I'd rather you just didn't play it at all"
  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,568
    He's said he won't be playing it live any more and has asked radio sations to stop playing it
    Wilier Izoard XP
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,732
    That church 'naves' are etymologically derived from the Latin for 'ship' (think 'navy, etc.) I'd never made the connection.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,996
    A boy named Sue by Johnny Cash was first performed live at San Quentin. The song had not even been written before the performance. Cash had been given a poem and as he hadn't even learnt the words, he had to refer to a piece of paper throughout the performance.
    He asked his band to provide an improvised backing track (key of A?) and the song was composed live on stage before the audience.
    Remarkable!
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,270
    Nice one, BM. Known that song and the recording for evah, that adds a lot to it.
  • lesfirth
    lesfirth Posts: 1,382

    A boy named Sue by Johnny Cash was first performed live at San Quentin. The song had not even been written before the performance. Cash had been given a poem and as he hadn't even learnt the words, he had to refer to a piece of paper throughout the performance.
    He asked his band to provide an improvised backing track (key of A?) and the song was composed live on stage before the audience.
    Remarkable!

    You can watch it on You Tube
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,812
    Jacob Rees Mogg is younger than Kylie Minogue.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,493
    rjsterry said:

    Jacob Rees Mogg is younger than Kylie Minogue.

    😱😱😱
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pblakeney said:

    rjsterry said:

    Jacob Rees Mogg is younger than Kylie Minogue.

    😱😱😱
    that is mad

    Apologies if I read it on here but Marilyn Monroe and the Queen were born two months apart
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,493
    edited January 2022

    pblakeney said:

    rjsterry said:

    Jacob Rees Mogg is younger than Kylie Minogue.

    😱😱😱
    that is mad

    Apologies if I read it on here but Marilyn Monroe and the Queen were born two months apart
    That makes sense if you consider when Marilyn died.
    19 bloody 62 FFS. Only 36 years old.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
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