Things you have recently learnt
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Yes. Even. Shows how bad things are.TheBigBean said:
Michael Howard? I think he was the worst leader of the opposition this century.pblakeney said:
I would still pick any of the above ahead of Gove, even with hindsight.TheBigBean said:
I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:Pross said:
It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).surrey_commuter said:
I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored donepinno said:
Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.shirley_basso said:Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so
William Hague
Iain Duncan Smith
Michael Howard
David Cameron
Theresa May
Even worse that the opposition isn't walking all over them.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
you have to be joking with IDS and Howeirdpblakeney said:
I would still pick any of the above ahead of Gove, even with hindsight.TheBigBean said:
I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:Pross said:
It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).surrey_commuter said:
I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored donepinno said:
Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.shirley_basso said:Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so
William Hague
Iain Duncan Smith
Michael Howard
David Cameron
Theresa May
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bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum.Pross said:
Cameron was streets ahead of the current lot during a pretty difficult time although he made the stupid mistake of being bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum. May was the wrong PM at the wrong time although calling a GE was a stupid mistake. Gove was comprehensively beaten when he stood against her (and only got a few more votes than Leadsom!) and was quite widely ridiculed as a contender back then from memory yet is now seen as the best option. Hague was a bit ridiculous in his attempts to be a man of the people but I think he was a decent politician.TheBigBean said:
I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:Pross said:
It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).surrey_commuter said:
I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored donepinno said:
Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.shirley_basso said:Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so
William Hague
Iain Duncan Smith
Michael Howard
David Cameron
Theresa May
I was thinking back more to past Cabinet members in the days of Thatcher or Blair who never even became Party leader.
that is quite a dramatic rewriting of history0 -
Brexit was splitting not only the tory party but their voters. He couldn't risk a split vote and let Labour get in that way. So, exaggerated, but not rewriting.surrey_commuter said:
bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum.Pross said:
Cameron was streets ahead of the current lot during a pretty difficult time although he made the stupid mistake of being bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum. May was the wrong PM at the wrong time although calling a GE was a stupid mistake. Gove was comprehensively beaten when he stood against her (and only got a few more votes than Leadsom!) and was quite widely ridiculed as a contender back then from memory yet is now seen as the best option. Hague was a bit ridiculous in his attempts to be a man of the people but I think he was a decent politician.TheBigBean said:
I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:Pross said:
It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).surrey_commuter said:
I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored donepinno said:
Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.shirley_basso said:Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so
William Hague
Iain Duncan Smith
Michael Howard
David Cameron
Theresa May
I was thinking back more to past Cabinet members in the days of Thatcher or Blair who never even became Party leader.
that is quite a dramatic rewriting of historyThe above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
surrey_commuter said:
you have to be joking with IDS and Howeirdpblakeney said:
I would still pick any of the above ahead of Gove, even with hindsight.TheBigBean said:
I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:Pross said:
It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).surrey_commuter said:
I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored donepinno said:
Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.shirley_basso said:Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so
William Hague
Iain Duncan Smith
Michael Howard
David Cameron
Theresa May
Show how low my opinion of Gove is.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I'm confused, I thought this was the Corona thread. Or the Brexit thread.briantrumpet said:These threads are getting confusing - can we regroup the Tory party stuff in the right thread please?
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I thought it was the Tory thread.0
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Others may have learned that if they ask questions then they will get answers.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Fine, but can we at least has an investigation into this blatant corruption of the "Things you have recently learnt" thread?pblakeney said:Others may have learned that if they ask questions then they will get answers.
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Who started it?
Who was involved?
How long has it been going on?
How can it be stopped from happening again?
Punishment?
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Perhaps we can at least learn something from this debacle.0
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Is this the Irony thread?focuszing723 said:Perhaps we can at least learn something from this debacle.
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This is a matter for the current investigation, sorry I can't be more helpful than that.First.Aspect said:
Is this the Irony thread?focuszing723 said:Perhaps we can at least learn something from this debacle.
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I can tell you though a result of the investigation will be released in due course.0
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Bullied is probably the wrong word but he was pressurised into it mainly due to the threat UKIP were posing to the Tory vote. Before that they had always been able to withstand the internal Euro sceptics.surrey_commuter said:
bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum.Pross said:
Cameron was streets ahead of the current lot during a pretty difficult time although he made the stupid mistake of being bullied by Farage into the Brexit referendum. May was the wrong PM at the wrong time although calling a GE was a stupid mistake. Gove was comprehensively beaten when he stood against her (and only got a few more votes than Leadsom!) and was quite widely ridiculed as a contender back then from memory yet is now seen as the best option. Hague was a bit ridiculous in his attempts to be a man of the people but I think he was a decent politician.TheBigBean said:
I think this is rose tinted glasses. Previous Conservative leaders:Pross said:
It's worrying when Gove is seen as the best solution, shows how lightweight politics has become when you look back at all the politicians from a decade or so back that never became PM (even if you didn't agree with their politics at least many of them were capable of coming up with policies). It's an even more sad indictment on the opposition that the Tories aren't polling a distant second (or even third).surrey_commuter said:
I like Gove, he is the only one who gets censored donepinno said:
Sure but if Spaffer goes, we're left with Patel?!, Gove?! and whatever creepy crawly Tory who wants to be PM.shirley_basso said:Is it possible for him to face criminal charges? Please let it be so
William Hague
Iain Duncan Smith
Michael Howard
David Cameron
Theresa May
I was thinking back more to past Cabinet members in the days of Thatcher or Blair who never even became Party leader.
that is quite a dramatic rewriting of history0 -
That Declan McManus aka Elvis Costello is a bit of a snowflake, asking for Oliver's Army to be cancelled.0
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Devi Durga - from Hinduism.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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I think that the story that I read suggested that his argument was more along the lines of "you're making it worse by bleeping the word, I'd rather you just didn't play it at all"0
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He's said he won't be playing it live any more and has asked radio sations to stop playing itWilier Izoard XP0
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That church 'naves' are etymologically derived from the Latin for 'ship' (think 'navy, etc.) I'd never made the connection.0
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A boy named Sue by Johnny Cash was first performed live at San Quentin. The song had not even been written before the performance. Cash had been given a poem and as he hadn't even learnt the words, he had to refer to a piece of paper throughout the performance.
He asked his band to provide an improvised backing track (key of A?) and the song was composed live on stage before the audience.
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Nice one, BM. Known that song and the recording for evah, that adds a lot to it.0
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You can watch it on You Tubeballysmate said:A boy named Sue by Johnny Cash was first performed live at San Quentin. The song had not even been written before the performance. Cash had been given a poem and as he hadn't even learnt the words, he had to refer to a piece of paper throughout the performance.
He asked his band to provide an improvised backing track (key of A?) and the song was composed live on stage before the audience.
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Jacob Rees Mogg is younger than Kylie Minogue.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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😱😱😱rjsterry said:Jacob Rees Mogg is younger than Kylie Minogue.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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That makes sense if you consider when Marilyn died.surrey_commuter said:
19 bloody 62 FFS. Only 36 years old.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I recently learned to recognise the difference between a stroke, a heart attack and a covid relapse with the help of two cyclists I met on a ride who asked me to join them. I also learned it's embarrassing to phone the missus to come pick you up while you quietly die in a grass verge with the snakes and koala poo 80 k from home.0