Zwift - does it get better?
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No offense, but I am pretty sure you are less of a cyclist then some people who only ride on Zwift.jgsi said:I’m a Zwifter. Fairly addicted over winter, using a decent Direto trainer.
I have enough kicks being a regular commuter, utility cyclist.
riding outdoors keeps it real, even though it knackers the bike up in this weather.
You cannot describe yourself as a cyclist if all you do is indoors.
End of.
There is a very famous pro who only rides on Zwift. The only time he rides outdoors is during races / world championships.
His real world performance over 180km during an Iron man race.
- average speed of 26 mph / 42 kmh solo (so without drafting in groups like Tour de France riders do).
- average power of 4.25 W/kg or around 310 Watts over 180km distance.
The funny thing is, he was holding back despite riding at 26 mph / 42 kmh for over 4 hours as he had to run a full marathon after that 180 km ride.
This Zwift rider basically goes as fast as Tour de France riders who ride in huge groups (so they draft which is super easy). But he does it solo.0 -
Really, people who say Zwift is crap have no idea what they are talking about.
If Zwift was so bad, some pro’s who are at the top-elite level (like 2nd at the world championships) would not choose to strictly ride on Zwift only.1 -
I think you are talking at cross purposes.zest28 said:
No offense, but I am pretty sure you are less of a cyclist then some people who only ride on Zwift.jgsi said:I’m a Zwifter. Fairly addicted over winter, using a decent Direto trainer.
I have enough kicks being a regular commuter, utility cyclist.
riding outdoors keeps it real, even though it knackers the bike up in this weather.
You cannot describe yourself as a cyclist if all you do is indoors.
End of.
There is a very famous pro who only rides on Zwift. The only time he rides outdoors is during races / world championships.
His real world performance over 180km during an Iron man race.
- average speed of 26 mph / 42 kmh solo (so without drafting in groups like Tour de France riders do).
- average power of 4.25 W/kg or around 310 Watts over 180km distance.
The funny thing is, he was holding back despite riding at 26 mph / 42 kmh for over 4 hours as he had to run a full marathon after that 180 km ride.
This Zwift rider basically goes as fast as Tour de France riders who ride in huge groups (so they draft which is super easy). But he does it solo.
If your famous pro (triathlete) "only rides outdoors is during races / world championships" he doesn't "only ride on Zwift". He rides on Zwift in order to ride better outdoors, albeit not very often.
The question of whether you can call yourself a cyclist if you only ride indoors needen't be judgemental, it's an interesting question that you could validly answer either way depending on how you define cycling.0 -
Is a kid on a PS4, 5 or whatever playing F1 a real racing driver?
For me using Zwift is a necessary evil. Choose your own definition, but when I'm out doing 50 or 60 miles against a howling wind and sub zero windchill on filthy roads during the winter, I certainly feel more like a real cyclist
All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
neeb said:
I think you are talking at cross purposes.zest28 said:
No offense, but I am pretty sure you are less of a cyclist then some people who only ride on Zwift.jgsi said:I’m a Zwifter. Fairly addicted over winter, using a decent Direto trainer.
I have enough kicks being a regular commuter, utility cyclist.
riding outdoors keeps it real, even though it knackers the bike up in this weather.
You cannot describe yourself as a cyclist if all you do is indoors.
End of.
There is a very famous pro who only rides on Zwift. The only time he rides outdoors is during races / world championships.
His real world performance over 180km during an Iron man race.
- average speed of 26 mph / 42 kmh solo (so without drafting in groups like Tour de France riders do).
- average power of 4.25 W/kg or around 310 Watts over 180km distance.
The funny thing is, he was holding back despite riding at 26 mph / 42 kmh for over 4 hours as he had to run a full marathon after that 180 km ride.
This Zwift rider basically goes as fast as Tour de France riders who ride in huge groups (so they draft which is super easy). But he does it solo.
If your famous pro (triathlete) "only rides outdoors is during races / world championships" he doesn't "only ride on Zwift". He rides on Zwift in order to ride better outdoors, albeit not very often.
The question of whether you can call yourself a cyclist if you only ride indoors needen't be judgemental, it's an interesting question that you could validly answer either way depending on how you define cycling.
According to at least one dictionary, cycling is "the sport or activity of riding a bicycle."
Now, from what I've seen, most people using Zwift are riding a bicycle. It may not be going anywhere but it fits the definition.You can fool some of the people all of the time. Concentrate on those people.0 -
Tell me this guy isn't running!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSp1r1QhUSY 0 -
Tricky, isn’t it? No right answers..
Are you really “riding” a bike if it isn’t moving? Are you riding a horse if you are sitting on it and it’s standing still ignoring you?0 -
Except when you're Zwifting you aren't just sitting on the bike are you.....neeb said:Tricky, isn’t it? No right answers..
Are you really “riding” a bike if it isn’t moving? Are you riding a horse if you are sitting on it and it’s standing still ignoring you?0 -
But you're not really controlling it either, as a vehicle.Dorset_Boy said:
Except when you're Zwifting you aren't just sitting on the bike are you.....neeb said:Tricky, isn’t it? No right answers..
Are you really “riding” a bike if it isn’t moving? Are you riding a horse if you are sitting on it and it’s standing still ignoring you?
From Oxford Dictionary (one of several definitions of "ride"): "to sit on something such as a bicycle, motorbike, or horse and travel along on it controlling its movements".
I think there's a better argument for saying you are cycling on Zwift than that you are riding.0 -
I'm pretty bloody glad we have Zwift now. It will help my sanity no end.0
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I hope they are ready for the increase in usage.0
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Knowing what it's been like previously I highly doubt it.
I'm working from home from now on, so I'll be using it a fair bit. Still going outside for rides when I get the chance (going to try and simulate my commute every morning outside)0
