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Team Wiggins to close down.

Darius_JedburghDarius_Jedburgh Posts: 675
edited August 2019 in Road general
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/49460722

Must be a story behind this??? I heard he was having trouble attracting sponsors - the jiffy bag episode still runs and runs - but have no idea if that's true. Anyone else shed any light on this?
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  • pinnopinno Posts: 42,724
    Jiffy bags have been produced since 1964. Hopefully, they will go on producing them for a long time yet.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • AlejandrosdogAlejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    Shame.
  • w00dsterw00dster Posts: 880
    It’s a shame for the riders and always sad to see a team having to close or look for major sponsors.
    I’d speculate that it has nothing to do with Jiffy bags, more to do with the difficulty lots of top level teams have with sponsors. A good number of teams over the last few years have been in the same position.
  • imposter2.0imposter2.0 Posts: 11,385
    Lack of sponsors and lack of funding - got bog all to do with 'jiffy bags'. Madison Genesis also stopping at the end of the season...
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    lack of sponsors, lack of funding, wiggins dropping out of the public eye, brexit & potential recession.

    no story behind it at all, just basic economics.

    it was only ever a short term thing tbh.......

    #everythingcomestoanend
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • cyclecliniccycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    There possibly is not the return on sponsorship there once was. I think most sponsorship is done for the love of the sport. The net gain maybe there but is hard to quantify. Given most people think a ression is looming the first thing to go is sponsorships. Itsstill a shame though but teams fold all the time.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • awaveyawavey Posts: 2,368
    Partly due to the state the UK domestic racing scene is in at the moment as well,which ought to be the responsibility of BC to sort out,some may argue they created alot of those problems to begin with.

    But theres precious little exposure from the races they do get so why would a sponsor whoever's that maybe continue to pay into a money pit for no return,even if that return maybe philanthropic in seeing riders developed towards pro or proconti levels
  • imposter2.0imposter2.0 Posts: 11,385
    awavey wrote:
    Partly due to the state the UK domestic racing scene is in at the moment as well,which ought to be the responsibility of BC to sort out,some may argue they created alot of those problems to begin with.

    But theres precious little exposure from the races they do get so why would a sponsor whoever's that maybe continue to pay into a money pit for no return,even if that return maybe philanthropic in seeing riders developed towards pro or proconti levels

    The end result will be yet more junior and U23 riders moving to Belgium/France to further their careers within more cycle-friendly cultures, which in turn will have the effect of diluting/diminishing the UK scene even more.
  • natrixnatrix Posts: 1,111
    Now he wants to be a social worker https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/49476727
    ~~~~~~Sustrans - Join the Movement~~~~~~
  • imposter2.0imposter2.0 Posts: 11,385
    natrix wrote:
    Now he wants to be a social worker https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/49476727

    Congrats to anyone who wants to enter social work, but this is all starting to sound a bit random...
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 8,962
    He talks about the Team close down on his podcast latest episode.
  • shirley_bassoshirley_basso Posts: 4,577
    Don’t worry people. Festina girl on twitter knows why.
  • pinnopinno Posts: 42,724
    What happened to the rowing?
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • redvisionredvision Posts: 2,746
    Pinno wrote:
    What happened to the rowing?

    He failed at it (claimed he couldn't dedicate the time it required)

    Good luck to him though. Despite what opinions are of him, he's achieved more on the bike than most, and its always good to hear someone trying something completely different, especially as challenging as social work.

    Shame in one way though as I liked his analysis and input on eurosport this year.
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    redvision wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    What happened to the rowing?

    He failed at it (claimed he couldn't dedicate the time it required)

    Good luck to him though. Despite what opinions are of him, he's achieved more on the bike than most, and its always good to hear someone trying something completely different, especially as challenging as social work.

    Shame in one way though as I liked his analysis and input on eurosport this year.

    don't worry, he'll be back on the telly next year.

    #mortgagepayments
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Don’t worry people. Festina girl on twitter knows why.

    link?

    #intrigued
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • joe_totale-2joe_totale-2 Posts: 1,333
    redvision wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    What happened to the rowing?

    He failed at it (claimed he couldn't dedicate the time it required)

    Good luck to him though. Despite what opinions are of him, he's achieved more on the bike than most, and its always good to hear someone trying something completely different, especially as challenging as social work.

    Shame in one way though as I liked his analysis and input on eurosport this year.

    don't worry, he'll be back on the telly next year.

    #mortgagepayments

    Yeah, he's doing a OU course so could fit it round TV. A lot of a social work degree is placement based but again but most of that is from September onwards so he could do it post Vuelta.

    I'm annoyed that I won't be the fastest cyclist who is also a social worker anymore.
  • shirley_bassoshirley_basso Posts: 4,577
    Don’t worry people. Festina girl on twitter knows why.

    link?

    #intrigued

    Seeking retribution for his demons for doping when winning them bike races, obviously, as the secrets are eating him up from the inside.

    (This is not a joke)
  • I'm annoyed that I won't be the fastest cyclist who is also a social worker anymore.

    Don't worry. He no longer wants to be thought of as a cyclist.
  • joe_totale-2joe_totale-2 Posts: 1,333
    I'm annoyed that I won't be the fastest cyclist who is also a social worker anymore.

    Don't worry. He no longer wants to be thought of as a cyclist.

    Lovely stuff :D
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Don’t worry people. Festina girl on twitter knows why.

    link?

    #intrigued

    Seeking retribution for his demons for doping when winning them bike races, obviously, as the secrets are eating him up from the inside.

    (This is not a joke)

    link?

    #youcan'tteaseuslikethis
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 17,774
    Don’t worry people. Festina girl on twitter knows why.

    link?

    #intrigued

    Seeking retribution for his demons for doping when winning them bike races, obviously, as the secrets are eating him up from the inside.

    (This is not a joke)

    link?

    #youcan'tteaseuslikethis

    https://twitter.com/festinagirl/status/ ... 2301834240
  • Don’t worry people. Festina girl on twitter knows why.

    link?

    #intrigued

    Seeking retribution for his demons for doping when winning them bike races, obviously, as the secrets are eating him up from the inside.

    (This is not a joke)
    Yes, cod psychology has to be the explanation.

    Or it could be that the vast majority of professional athletes ultimately pursue careers outside of sport when they retire.
  • pinnopinno Posts: 42,724
    'Festina girl' could be anybpdy.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • shirley_bassoshirley_basso Posts: 4,577
    Pinno wrote:
    'Festina girl' could be anybpdy.
    A lunatic that is convinced everyone in sky / ineos is doping.

    Like vayer / festinaboy.
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Pinno wrote:
    'Festina girl' could be anybpdy.
    A lunatic that is convinced everyone in sky / ineos is doping.

    Like vayer / festinaboy.

    why does that belief make them a "lunatic"?

    #explanation
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • pinnopinno Posts: 42,724
    Pinno wrote:
    'Festina girl' could be anybpdy.
    A lunatic that is convinced everyone in sky / ineos is doping.

    Like vayer / festinaboy.

    why does that belief make them a "lunatic"?

    #explanation

    Because it is belief based rather than evidence based.

    The world is flat etc.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Pinno wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    'Festina girl' could be anybpdy.
    A lunatic that is convinced everyone in sky / ineos is doping.

    Like vayer / festinaboy.

    why does that belief make them a "lunatic"?

    #explanation

    Because it is belief based rather than evidence based.

    The world is flat etc.

    perhaps they have the evidence and it is jst belief on the part of others that makes them believe sky/ineos/wiggins are clean and therefore, ergo, they are the lunatics?

    and show me evidence that hasn't been contrived by the PROVEN fake news MSM that the world isn't flat.

    #evidence
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 8,962
    Poor attempt at a Manc33 impression there MF.
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    he'd never use a word like "ergo". if anything its too difficult for him to spell.

    #spellink,innit
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
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