Why Dan martin didn't win the 2019 Tour de France

specialgueststar
specialgueststar Posts: 3,418
edited July 2019 in Pro race
1. Sports drink concentration all wrong

2....errr that's it.

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  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    He had a bit of a hurty leg, too. There was a lot of that at UAE, I think.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Why ATC didn't win the Tour.

    1. ASO sexism.
    2. Too old.
    3. Have a full-time job.
    4. Likes food and wine too much, ergo...
    5. Too slow.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • meursault
    meursault Posts: 1,433
    And they didn't have Katusha's air cleaning thing either.

    Wait, that didn't help them much/at all.

    Marginal gains...
    Superstition sets the whole world in flames; philosophy quenches them.

    Voltaire
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    meursault wrote:
    And they didn't have Katusha's air cleaning thing either.

    Wait, that didn't help them much/at all.

    Marginal gains...

    Yeah but they did all have lovely caffeinated hair, so you win some, you lose some.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • alanparsons
    alanparsons Posts: 529
    SpecialGuestStar wrote:
    1. Sports drink concentration all wrong

    2....errr that's it.

    Can this be applied to every race that Dan Martin hasn't won since LBL in 2013??
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    TBF apparently the UAE staff forgot to buy the team any food for one of the transfers and had to stop at a motorway services to buy the riders some pre-packed sandwiches...

    Team doesn't sound like a happy place despite their Colnagos...
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    dish_dash wrote:
    TBF apparently the UAE staff forgot to buy the team any food for one of the transfers and had to stop at a motorway services to buy the riders some pre-packed sandwiches...

    Team doesn't sound like a happy place despite their Colnagos...

    Amateur hour.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Above The Cows wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    TBF apparently the UAE staff forgot to buy the team any food for one of the transfers and had to stop at a motorway services to buy the riders some pre-packed sandwiches...

    Team doesn't sound like a happy place despite their Colnagos...

    Amateur hour.

    Obviously a desperate attempt to make the boys hyperactive by pumping them full of E numbers.
    Might have worked in the UK, too.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    It is odd that he knows the problem but can’t say what it was just yet and his form was good. Weird that he would communicate this too. Like some have said, not a happy place .
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    When you think about the crap Sky/Ineos get about budgets, marginal gains, etc, they very rarely get anything wrong in the Tour. That's why they win it. Other teams seem to struggle with the basics.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Above The Cows wrote:
    meursault wrote:
    And they didn't have Katusha's air cleaning thing either.

    Wait, that didn't help them much/at all.

    Marginal gains...

    Yeah but they did all have lovely caffeinated hair, so you win some, you lose some.

    WTAF does caffeine do to hair??
  • poweredbyidris
    poweredbyidris Posts: 848
    keef66 wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    meursault wrote:
    And they didn't have Katusha's air cleaning thing either.

    Wait, that didn't help them much/at all.

    Marginal gains...

    Yeah but they did all have lovely caffeinated hair, so you win some, you lose some.

    WTAF does caffeine do to hair??

    Lets you 'fight for your hair'

    Whatever that means
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    keef66 wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    meursault wrote:
    And they didn't have Katusha's air cleaning thing either.

    Wait, that didn't help them much/at all.

    Marginal gains...

    Yeah but they did all have lovely caffeinated hair, so you win some, you lose some.

    WTAF does caffeine do to hair??

    German engineering - for your hair!
  • rich_pcp
    rich_pcp Posts: 113
    keef66 wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    meursault wrote:
    And they didn't have Katusha's air cleaning thing either.

    Wait, that didn't help them much/at all.

    Marginal gains...

    Yeah but they did all have lovely caffeinated hair, so you win some, you lose some.

    WTAF does caffeine do to hair??
    Keeps your from falling asleep at an inconvenient time.
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Apparently the ASA made them stop claiming it reduces hair loss because they couldn't come up with any convincing evidence to that effect. So they now make do with meaningless boll0cks about German engineering and fighting for your hair, and hope that claiming it's selling fast in Germany will make us all buy it because we've all got German cars and washing machines.
  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,312
    Some teams just don't get it right whatever 'it' is. Ben King left Sky went to Bahrain(?) and went back to Ineos. DQS seem to have it right for their style of riders similarly M-Scott. Martin has had some major wins but just seems to lack something to tip him over into the winning section. But then Gilbert didn't perform at BMC
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,545
    keef66 wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    meursault wrote:
    And they didn't have Katusha's air cleaning thing either.

    Wait, that didn't help them much/at all.

    Marginal gains...

    Yeah but they did all have lovely caffeinated hair, so you win some, you lose some.

    WTAF does caffeine do to hair??

    Gets it wired, that's what is meant by wiry hair.
  • aquaman LT
    aquaman LT Posts: 354
    edited July 2019
    keef66 wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    meursault wrote:
    And they didn't have Katusha's air cleaning thing either.

    Wait, that didn't help them much/at all.

    Marginal gains...

    Yeah but they did all have lovely caffeinated hair, so you win some, you lose some.

    WTAF does caffeine do to hair??

    Your hair never sleep!
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,545
    amrushton wrote:
    Some teams just don't get it right whatever 'it' is. Ben King left Sky went to Bahrain(?) and went back to Ineos. DQS seem to have it right for their style of riders similarly M-Scott. Martin has had some major wins but just seems to lack something to tip him over into the winning section. But then Gilbert didn't perform at BMC

    Do you mean Ben Swift?
  • ShutupJens
    ShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    Is Dan Martin really a GC guy? I know he's finished top 10 a few times but has anyone ever really thought he had a chance of threatening yellow at all? I think he might be better off realigning his expectations and looking to win more classics, which he clearly has a nose for
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,482
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,909
    dish_dash wrote:
    TBF apparently the UAE staff forgot to buy the team any food for one of the transfers and had to stop at a motorway services to buy the riders some pre-packed sandwiches...

    Team doesn't sound like a happy place despite their Colnagos...

    If that is true it's shocking. Diet is a top top top top priority.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,909
    ShutupJens wrote:
    Is Dan Martin really a GC guy? I know he's finished top 10 a few times but has anyone ever really thought he had a chance of threatening yellow at all? I think he might be better off realigning his expectations and looking to win more classics, which he clearly has a nose for

    A few years back you slash one would of had him as a decent podium chance at the vuelta. But yeah ...
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,107
    Maybe hunting the mountains jersey would suit him, most better climbers than him will be riding GC or be super domestiques and he has the kick to take the points over most others that can climb with him. That and hilly classics, maybe ride for stages at grand tours - it's a niche I know but one that might suit him for 2-3 years he should have left at the top.
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  • Jammiedodgeruk
    Jammiedodgeruk Posts: 36
    Love Dan Martin, but he's not good enough.

    Thats it.

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